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marble falls

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6. And Willi Brant wasn't a paid CIA informant? .....
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 07:26 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Tue Feb 4, 2014, 09:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Some CIA assets went on to lead their countries — Vietnamese strongman Ngo Ding Diem, Congolese despot Mobuto Sese Seko and former Chilean President Eduardo Frei. German Chancellor (and Nobel Peace laureate) Willy Brandt and Indian Prime Minister Morarji Desai spent the twilight of their careers having to deny allegations that they had been on the agency's payroll.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1933053_1933052_1933042,00.html

Ad some claim he worked for the KGB:

http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/1998/1998-June/002791.html

The Times of London June 16 1998

Defector says Willy Brandt was KGB agent

WILLY BRANDT, the former West German Chancellor, architect of Ostpolitik and symbol of the country's Left, was also a Soviet KGB agent, according to information provided by a Russian defector.

The timing of the accusations is significant, coming in the middle of a general election campaign. Branding the Social Democrats as communist stooges has been part of the conservative election repertoire for five decades.

Lots of spying going on, NSA spied on Merkel and Her predessor, Snoeden spied on NSA. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #1
Snowden has been very clear about why he blew the whistle on the NSA. Maedhros Feb 2014 #7
Facts are facts, NSA was observing activities, you say Snowden was observing activities, Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #10
Is that really Barbara Bush in your avatar? Maedhros Feb 2014 #11
Maybe you should ask Snowden, he may be able to tell you. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #12
Well, I figured since you're the one that put it on your DU profile Maedhros Feb 2014 #13
Your dog doesn't hunt. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #14
I don't have a dog, although I did when I was younger. Maedhros Feb 2014 #16
Ann Richards jakeXT Feb 2014 #17
Ah. I stand corrected. Maedhros Feb 2014 #20
these people are for real and theyre here and they serve on juries and they use propaganda frwrfpos Feb 2014 #28
The tip off: the amount of real, personal vitriol directed at Snowden Maedhros Feb 2014 #30
jakeXT Diclotican Feb 2014 #2
ECHELON jakeXT Feb 2014 #3
! BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #5
jakeXT Diclotican Feb 2014 #15
So? Bet that Germany is spying on us and has been for decades. What's the big deal? George II Feb 2014 #4
Serious question: Maedhros Feb 2014 #21
I don't know, if true I haven't seen the transcript. Another question.... George II Feb 2014 #22
It betrays the American people because it undermines the trust between our government Maedhros Feb 2014 #24
I was born in Brooklyn, lived in NY most of my life. I have Canadian heritage. George II Feb 2014 #25
Oh - okay. What about my other question? Maedhros Feb 2014 #26
Don't expect an answer. Titonwan Feb 2014 #31
Why do they always say "I already answered your question" Maedhros Feb 2014 #35
Most people look at the question itself before deciding whether they "buy it" or not..... George II Feb 2014 #36
You defend the NSA's actions with respect to wiretapping Merkel, Maedhros Feb 2014 #37
I sort of answered it the first time. Not seeing what information obtained (IF it's true).... George II Feb 2014 #32
No you didn't. Nice dodge, though. Maedhros Feb 2014 #34
And Willi Brant wasn't a paid CIA informant? ..... marble falls Feb 2014 #6
Conservatives simply wanted to buy the GDR jakeXT Feb 2014 #8
jakeXT Diclotican Feb 2014 #18
marble falls Diclotican Feb 2014 #23
I just added a link. marble falls Feb 2014 #27
OMG! NSA's predecessor organizations spied in Germany's dictator during the early 1940s. The US 24601 Feb 2014 #9
Vassals and tributaries jakeXT Feb 2014 #19
Tell that to the countries that rely on the assurances from the US that they are allies. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #29
"Germany is one of our closest if not our closest ally after Canada." George II Feb 2014 #38
Germany is more reliable and more self-sufficient than Israel. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #39
Pre-dates 9/11? blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #33
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