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highplainsdem

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Sat Jun 18, 2022, 11:53 AM Jun 2022

I would appreciate some of DU's good vibes or [View all]

Last edited Sun Nov 12, 2023, 09:33 PM - Edit history (3)

prayers or healing energy or whatever you want to call it (I don't think the name matters).

This request isn't for myself -- I'm fine -- or for a family member. I know how good you all are at offering support, but I also have some RW relatives who know I post here but don't know my handle, so I don't post anything too identifiable.

I'd appreciate vibes/prayers/healing for a musician I've admired for decades, who was diagnosed with ALS a little over a year and a half ago, and who just gave his first interview and update since the diagnosis was announced, because he has a new album out of songs recorded years ago.

The musician is George Kooymans -- founder, lead guitarist, main songwriter, and sometimes lead vocalist of the Dutch group Golden Earring, best known for their international hits "Radar Love" in the 1970s and "Twilight Zone" in the 1980s. though they had an extremely long string of hit albums and singles in the Netherlands, and they didn't disband till last year, 60 years after the first version of the band was founded.

Lead singer Barry Hay had given an update several months ago where he said George was still traveling, going out with friends, enjoying himself -- and that sounded encouraging. Their bass player, Rinus Gerritsen, who's also George's brother-in-law, said a couple of months ago that George was doing "as well as could be expected," which didn't sound quite as encouraging, but I'd still been hoping that doctors had found or would quickly find an effective treatment,

George did a radio interview this morning, partly to talk about his new album with American guitarist Frank Carillo, whom he'd recorded one earlier album with, more than ten years ago -- they put together a new album from songs they'd been working on for years -- and partly to finally talk about how he's doing.

He said the doctors have been telling him the disease is progressing slowly for him, but to him it feels like a rapid deterioration.

He has trouble walking. He has trouble controlling his fingers -- can no longer play guitar (and he'd been an award-winning guitarist), can't really use a computer very well though he can move the mouse. He talked about software that might let him write music using eye movements.

This was heartbreaking news, and it sounded all too familiar, since someone I'd met and come to know online, back in the 1980s, had been diagnosed with ALS about 15 years later and died only a couple of years after the diagnosis. Ernie Wallengren was a writer/producer, and he'd also enjoyed coaching high school boys basketball. It was while playing basketball that he first noticed the symptoms of ALS. His illness made the news and he also agreed to some filming of his deterioration, which was so painful to watch. (EDITNG here to link to a site with more about what Ernie went through, and the filming. He was one of three people using wheelchairs filmed for that documentary, the only one with ALS. See these links: https://www.thirteen.org/rolling/discover/ernie-wallengren/ for a bit of background on Ernie, and https://www.thirteen.org/rolling/thefilm/ for a page with three videos. In the first video, the first segment on Ernie starts at 5:40. I learned that Ernie had ALS via a TV news magazine a couple of decades ago. We'd chatted and emailed for a while in the mid-1980s, but didn't stay in touch after I left that online platform after a couple of years, partly because I was thinking I might return after a break, but didn't. The diagnosis was just as tragic for him as it was for George. If it weren't for ALS, Ernie would probably still be writing, producing, and maybe coaching boys basketball.)

[Necessary 11/12/23 edit because the thirteen.org web pages linked to above no longer exist, giving some of Ernie's background and showing the documentary he was filmed for. But you can find a lot about his background in the industry on his IMDb page, at
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0908997/ . And at https://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/ci_7881299 you'll find a long Salt Lake Tribune article from 2008 on Ernie's life and battle with ALS and the role his faith played, and that article has some information on the award-winning documentary I'd linked to above. EDITING AGAIN, hours later, since I just found a very brief clip from that documentary on YouTube. See reply 135 below.]


George was also athletic -- played a lot of tennis, ran marathons. He's 74 now (Ernie was only 50), but we all know people can often maintain health and creativity into their 80s or older. We have a great example today with Paul McCartney turning 80, while on tour again.

I'm still hoping for a miracle recovery for George Kooymans, but today's news, which I found when I checked Google for articles on Dutch websites, wasn't good.

Some old videos below. The music video for "Radar Love." Video of "Vanilla Queen" live at Winterland in 1975 -- look at the guitar solo a little after 3 minutes in and the outro starting around the 8 minute mark, to get some idea of why George is considered a great guitarist. A live performance of "Twilight Zone" -- George wrote both the music and lyrics for that, with no help from Barry Hay on lyrics (though Barry wrote most of their lyrics since English was his first language) and it was their biggest hit ever. And a performance for a crowd of nearly 200,000 on the beach near the Hague in 1993.














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You got it, vibes going out to George K. MLAA Jun 2022 #1
Thank you! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #10
Thank you for that bit of rock history. CrispyQ Jun 2022 #2
You're welcome, and thank you! The band's history highplainsdem Jun 2022 #11
Btw, the guitar on "Twilight Zone" is amazing, too, but I've been highplainsdem Jun 2022 #37
Healing vibes on the way! To George 💓💓💓 SheltieLover Jun 2022 #3
Thanks, SheltieLover! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #13
Yw! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #31
All else aside, it's good to see you here. NNadir Nov 2023 #137
I'm so sorry I didn't see your reply to SheltieLover's very old message when you posted it last month, after highplainsdem Dec 2023 #138
Oh, that's too bad. tanyev Jun 2022 #4
{{{{{tanyev}}}}} Thank you! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #14
Radar Love is the ultimate driving song. Turn it up and GO! Lochloosa Jun 2022 #5
I agree, and I'm sure a lot of other DUers would, too. A highplainsdem Jun 2022 #15
Totally agree. debm55 Oct 2022 #70
Many positive vibes for George, thanks for posting. appalachiablue Jun 2022 #6
Thanks, appalachiablue! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #16
Healing vibes and much love for Mr. Kooymans Glorfindel Jun 2022 #7
Same here re Golden Earring and "Twilight Zone." Fell in love with the band highplainsdem Jun 2022 #17
Healing vibes nt BootinUp Jun 2022 #8
Thank you, BootinUp! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #18
Damn, what a tragedy. Thanks for bringing him to our attention... good thoughts en route! Karadeniz Jun 2022 #9
I think it's tragic, too. Well, ALS is tragic for everyone who's highplainsdem Jun 2022 #19
Positive thoughts for your Friend so far away. Deuxcents Jun 2022 #12
Thanks, Deuxcents! I don't know George, though -- I'm a highplainsdem Jun 2022 #23
Sending healing energy to George. StarryNite Jun 2022 #20
Thank you, StarryNite! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #25
It is always a tragedy when this happens to a fellow musician DFW Jun 2022 #21
Thanks, DFW! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #27
Sent up a prayer for his healing. Keep us posted. n/t iluvtennis Jun 2022 #22
Thanks! And I'll try to keep you posted, but this update highplainsdem Jun 2022 #28
Sending good vibes out to The Universe for George. Hopefully, the progression will be slow LoisB Jun 2022 #24
Thank you! I keep praying for the same thing, that there's time for a successful treatment highplainsdem Jun 2022 #29
All the best to George! Radar Love is one of my favorites. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #26
Thanks, LuckyCharms! "Radar Love" is about telepathy, and they've done at highplainsdem Jun 2022 #30
wishing the best for Mr. Kooymans Skittles Jun 2022 #32
Thanks, Skittles! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #34
oh dear Skittles Jun 2022 #38
Re that speeding ticket: It's a shame you weren't dealing with a cop like the highplainsdem Jun 2022 #40
awesome! Skittles Jun 2022 #41
Vibes en route: malthaussen Jun 2022 #33
Thanks for the healing vibes for George, Mal! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #35
I've edited the OP to add links to info and videos about highplainsdem Jun 2022 #36
I loved Golden Earring since way back when Radar Love hit the air. Swede Jun 2022 #39
Thanks for sending those vibes to George, Swede! And we feel the same highplainsdem Jun 2022 #42
Mirage, George's new album with American singer/songwriter/guitarist Frank Carillo, highplainsdem Jun 2022 #43
Found a good review of George's new album, Mirage, with Frank Carillo. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #44
There's an article on George in the Dutch magazine Oor (Dutch for Ear), the oldest highplainsdem Jul 2022 #45
George did another radio interview yesterday with classic-rock NPO Radio 5 in the highplainsdem Jul 2022 #46
I don't know if it's just that we're hearing about it more, but it seems more musicians... AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2022 #47
Billboard article from late May on John Driskell Hopkins of the Zac Brown Band: highplainsdem Jul 2022 #48
I posted Golden Earring's stunning acoustic cover of the Byrds' "Eight Miles High" in highplainsdem Jul 2022 #49
Vibe Baggies Jul 2022 #50
Thanks, Baggies, and welcome to DU! Not sure how long you've been highplainsdem Jul 2022 #51
I'll keep that in mind Baggies Jul 2022 #52
Man, that's rough! Different Drummer Jul 2022 #53
Thanks! It really is rough, and I can't offhand think of any other musician whose highplainsdem Jul 2022 #54
George did another interview, this one with Radio Veronica in the Netherlands, highplainsdem Jul 2022 #55
Another interview/update + a good review of his new album with Frank Carillo. highplainsdem Jul 2022 #56
Another interview, this time for a radio station. highplainsdem Jul 2022 #57
As I mentioned in reply 57 above, I found out that the magazine subscription service Readly highplainsdem Jul 2022 #58
Good review of the new Kooymans/Carillo album Mirage at Outsiderrock.ca: highplainsdem Jul 2022 #59
Ran across an interview IN ENGLISH with George Kooymans and Frank Carillo. highplainsdem Aug 2022 #60
Vibes... malthaussen Aug 2022 #61
Those are great vibes, Mal! Thanks! highplainsdem Aug 2022 #62
There haven't been any new interviews or updates for a month. I'm not going to pretend this highplainsdem Aug 2022 #63
Finally ran across a new interview with George, a month and a half since the last ones. But highplainsdem Sep 2022 #64
An update on George via an article on Golden Earring's drummer today. highplainsdem Sep 2022 #65
No news - I wish there were some good news to post - but I wanted to link to highplainsdem Sep 2022 #66
Ran across an article on a Dutch band doing free concerts if highplainsdem Sep 2022 #67
Some news this morning, though no update on George's health. highplainsdem Oct 2022 #68
A bit of news, and a CBS video about another musician with ALS. highplainsdem Oct 2022 #69
I remember the songs. Sending good vibes to George. debm55 Oct 2022 #71
Thanks, Deb! highplainsdem Oct 2022 #72
George's former bandmate Boudewijn de Groot, as mentioned in reply 69 above, highplainsdem Nov 2022 #73
I've finally found some info on how George contributed to Boudewijn de Groot's new album, highplainsdem Nov 2022 #74
+ + + quaint Nov 2022 #75
{{{{quaint}}}} The song, and the background on it, brought tears to highplainsdem Nov 2022 #76
TY quaint Nov 2022 #77
The demo George did of that song co-written with Boudewijn WILL be released highplainsdem Jan 2023 #96
I found a good English translation of the Volkskrant article highplainsdem Nov 2022 #78
George was in the news again today, but not because of his health or his recent music. The lead highplainsdem Nov 2022 #79
I was really happy this morning to discover there was a new podcast about highplainsdem Nov 2022 #80
George's name popped up in another news story today, though this one was highplainsdem Nov 2022 #81
I keep running across more info on artists whose careers George has helped, highplainsdem Dec 2022 #82
Healing thoughts nt XanaDUer2 Dec 2022 #83
Thank you! highplainsdem Dec 2022 #84
Just realized I never included a link here to a thread posted highplainsdem Dec 2022 #85
I want to quote some of the reviews of Golden Earring's last album, a highplainsdem Dec 2022 #86
I was checking Google for any news of George and found a New Year's message his friend and highplainsdem Jan 2023 #87
Google is usually pretty reliable, including when you narrow search results to highplainsdem Jan 2023 #88
Great article on Boudewijn's latest album (which George helped him with, as highplainsdem Jan 2023 #89
Article IN ENGLISH - with new photos - about George being made an honorary citizen highplainsdem Jan 2023 #90
Linking to a separate, much shorter thread I posted 5 days ago about the honorary-citizen award that highplainsdem Jan 2023 #91
News this morning of a Golden Earring reunion that will take place next week: highplainsdem Jan 2023 #92
Vibes for best outcome, please keep us posted. niyad Jan 2023 #93
Thanks, niyad! I really appreciate the vibes for him. highplainsdem Jan 2023 #94
The first single from the third, unreleased Vreemde Kostgangers album is out, new music highplainsdem Jan 2023 #95
Another release from the upcoming VK album. George singing about his Strat. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #97
Another review of the new single, "Fender Strat" - this one from a Dutch site: highplainsdem Feb 2023 #98
Another good review of the new album: highplainsdem Feb 2023 #99
Today is George's 75th birthday. I hope he's having as good a day as possible, surrounded highplainsdem Mar 2023 #100
A new interview with George's VK bandmate Boudewijn de Groot has some great comments on highplainsdem Mar 2023 #101
There's a new, fairly long interview with George, with lots of photos, in the highplainsdem Mar 2023 #102
So sad. SheltieLover Mar 2023 #103
Yes. Tragic. highplainsdem Mar 2023 #104
I'll sure keep the healing energy flowing to him. 💓💓💓 SheltieLover Mar 2023 #105
Thanks! highplainsdem Mar 2023 #106
Yw SheltieLover Mar 2023 #107
Another news story on George today, this one more worrisome. highplainsdem Mar 2023 #108
I found the longer article the snippet in reply 108 is from, and I was highplainsdem Mar 2023 #109
5-star review for the new Vreemde Kostgangers album! This has to highplainsdem Mar 2023 #110
Story today on the Dutch newspaper site Ad.nl about a tribute concert for highplainsdem Mar 2023 #111
George's new Vreemde Kostgangers album is #1 on the Dutch vinyl albums chart, #2 on highplainsdem Mar 2023 #112
Good vibes going out for George Cadfael Mar 2023 #113
Thanks, Cadfael! And kudos to your cool mom for introducing you to great highplainsdem Mar 2023 #114
The Belgian paper De Tijde (The Times) had a long article on highplainsdem Apr 2023 #115
Ran across a tweet yesterday with a page on George as a guitar hero highplainsdem Apr 2023 #116
Thread in Music Appreciation about Bojoura, the singer whose career George highplainsdem Apr 2023 #117
Golden Earring were back in the Top Ten on the Dutch charts, the chart for vinyl albums highplainsdem May 2023 #118
I found out today that George influenced Dutch music in a way I'd never highplainsdem May 2023 #119
How is George doing? Loved Golden Earring's songs. Sending good vibes his way. debm55 May 2023 #120
Thanks, Debbie! I haven't been able to find any very recent news via Google or highplainsdem May 2023 #121
There was some news yesterday about the tribute concert highplainsdem Jun 2023 #122
+++++++ quaint Jun 2023 #123
Ran across a feature story in several Dutch newspapers about two of highplainsdem Jun 2023 #124
Found an interesting March 1974 article on Golden Earring yesterday, one highplainsdem Jul 2023 #125
Finally, a bit of an update on how George is doing, highplainsdem Jul 2023 #126
I mentioned Cesar's 75th birthday last month in the reply above. Omroep West, the Dutch broadcaster highplainsdem Aug 2023 #127
Sadly, the tribute concert scheduled for October, first mentioned here in reply 111 highplainsdem Aug 2023 #128
highplaindem.I will continue to send good wishes and vibes. I am sorry this is happening. You are a debm55 Aug 2023 #129
Thanks, Debbie! I was sorry to see that the tribute concert was postponed, and the highplainsdem Aug 2023 #130
Videos of two recent appearances by the other members of Golden Earring, highplainsdem Sep 2023 #131
There was a great interview with Boudewijn de Groot mentioning George in a highplainsdem Oct 2023 #132
Kicking after editing the OP because some web pages I'd linked to about Ernie Wallengren, a friend who highplainsdem Nov 2023 #133
I will continue to pray, highplainsdem. debm55 Nov 2023 #134
{{{{{Debbie}}}}} Thanks! You're an angel. highplainsdem Nov 2023 #135
Just discovered there's now a fundraiser for ALS, mentioning George, via the website of NPO3 radio in the Netherlands. highplainsdem Nov 2023 #136
Thank you, highplainsdem. You a tireless person working for a cause that will one day have a cure. debm55 Dec 2023 #139
Two of George's Golden Earring bandmates, bassist Rinus and drummer Cesar, took part in a Queen tribute highplainsdem Feb 3 #140
New video on YouTube with Frank Carillo, who recorded two albums with George, talking about their decades of highplainsdem Mar 6 #141
I posted in reply 128 last August that the tribute concert scheduled for last October had been postponed. It's now highplainsdem Apr 11 #142
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