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BlueIn_W_Pa

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22. EVs with current battery tech

Reply to msongs (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:43 PM

Aug 2023

would also decimate the southern hemisphere's environment because of the minerals that are needed

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Where are we going with electric cars? Are we kidding ourselves if every time... [View all] brush Aug 2023 OP

Big Difference Effete Snob Aug 2023 #1

Yeah, that's my point. They're all really fossil fuel cars if we get down to it. brush Aug 2023 #2

Yes, but Effete Snob Aug 2023 #3

Well enougn, but my point is we have to at some point commit to... brush Aug 2023 #5

There are only so many ways to generate energy Effete Snob Aug 2023 #10

You can't guarantee anything. The next development of power generation will... brush Aug 2023 #11

EV's don't care how the power is generated Effete Snob Aug 2023 #19

See post 15. brush Aug 2023 #21

What an annoying way to converse Effete Snob Aug 2023 #25

Hydrogen vehicles already exist, and their emissions are H2O. brush Aug 2023 #27

It's still more efficient to centrally generate with H2 and power EV's Effete Snob Aug 2023 #28

You are dead wrong about emissions, though Effete Snob Aug 2023 #30

So many useless things already exist. hunter Aug 2023 #36

Ding, ding, ding, ding Effete Snob Aug 2023 #38

I absolutely agree.... Think. Again. Aug 2023 #45

The very first thing BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #18

It is just shy of delusional to think that these fusion expt's will lead to practical energy. NNadir Aug 2023 #41

Hydrogen vehicles are already here. EVs are not the final... brush Aug 2023 #47

Hydrogen vehicles are not really "here." Anyway these Potemkin demonstration garbage devices... NNadir Aug 2023 #48

May I add that BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #17

I see what you did there. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2023 #7

What some folks don't get.... Effete Snob Aug 2023 #24

When I was a child my parents occasionally made do without refrigerators or freezers. hunter Aug 2023 #37

Even if all electricity was generated from coal.... bluestateboomer Aug 2023 #4

See post 5. brush Aug 2023 #6

There is no energy transition; and the belief that so called "renewable energy" will become... NNadir Aug 2023 #42

Well, I think... Think. Again. Aug 2023 #46

whatever is the make up of that grid, yes that goes into the cars energy Blues Heron Aug 2023 #8

See post 5. brush Aug 2023 #9

You are missing the point, brush. First, electric cars will be far more efficient than fossil-fuel Martin68 Aug 2023 #12

My point is EVs are stop gap to the next generation of vehicles... brush Aug 2023 #14

I am kind of at a loss as to what would replace EVs if they are a "stopgap" Miguelito Loveless Aug 2023 #23

In my orginal OP I mentioned that a German railway opted for... brush Aug 2023 #26

Where do you propose to get the hydrogen Effete Snob Aug 2023 #29

FYI: Here ya go. brush Aug 2023 #31

Ah, from the hydrogen fairy Effete Snob Aug 2023 #32

Don't like that. Try this one. brush Aug 2023 #39

That has nothing to do with where you intend to get the hydrogen Effete Snob Aug 2023 #40

But we're not going to along without them. Again, EVs are not the final evolution. brush Aug 2023 #43

Here's one way Caribbeans Aug 2023 #33

Why not just use the electricity to RUN THE ELECTRIC CARS Effete Snob Aug 2023 #34

H2 powered mass/personal transit is a step backward Miguelito Loveless Aug 2023 #35

You must have a lot more money than I do, or most people do. hunter Aug 2023 #57

I apologize. That is exactly what I'm saying. I misinterpreted your post. Martin68 Aug 2023 #50

I don't beleive that currently (efficiency claim) BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #20

Yep... Think. Again. Aug 2023 #13

ev's need to be recharged from solar/wind or they are not helping that much nt msongs Aug 2023 #15

Exactly my point. brush Aug 2023 #16

EVs with current battery tech BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #22

Solar and wind energy can't even run the computers and servers dedicated to saying how great they... NNadir Aug 2023 #44

While ubiquitous mass transit would be better, this is FUD. Voltaire2 Aug 2023 #49

Vehicles that currently use fossil fuels could run just as well on carbon neutral synthetic fuels. hunter Aug 2023 #51

Certainly deserves research and development brush Aug 2023 #54

The goal post shift there was utterly awesome. NT. Voltaire2 Aug 2023 #55

I don't play football. I don't watch football. hunter Aug 2023 #56

Solar powered small cars with small batteries LiberaBlueDem Aug 2023 #52

The Department of Energy used to have a helpful web page OKIsItJustMe Aug 2023 #53