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catrose

(5,105 posts)
52. 1972!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:39 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:19 PM - Edit history (1)

When they came up with a reason why you couldn't wear a LONG skirt! "Unprofessional," that's the ticket! Long skirts violated the dress code of my small religious college. I remember days in winter at the bus stop wearing boots and the dreadful "appropriate" length skirt/dress, bundled everywhere except that thin space between boot and hem, which was freezing. And the wind going where it liked, I don't mind telling you. The only dress code the guys had was to wear a tie, which they wore over T-shirts.
ON EDIT: Does anyone think it's strange that dresses come in 2 lengths: up to your nether regions and down to your ankles?

There were other moments. When my Catholic boyfriend said he'd let me die in childbirth rather than use contraceptives. When my brothers got cars for graduation presents while I was hitchhiking to classes in college. Studying the lives of famous women writers, musicians, and artists and seeing the struggle they had. I think I went into music and writing under the impression that those fields were open to women. Music turned out to be a sexual harasser's dream--and although you auditioned behind a screen, eventually the hiring committee had to see you, and jobs you won frequently evaporated for a woman. And as recently as the late 90s, WOMEN in writing critique groups were saying stuff like, "Your story doesn't have any strong male characters." Ever heard of anybody telling Stephen Crane, Jack London, Ernest Hemingway, et many cetera, that their stories are flawed because they don't have strong female characters?

And then there's the financial stuff...my ex-husband had excellent credit for awhile because I'd made sure all the bills were paid. I had lousy credit after the divorce because I was, you know...I tried to get the house refinanced to a lower payment after he declared bankruptcy and his share of the debts from the marriage came back on me, but I didn't have good enough credit to do that. Oh, and all the times I held the same job as a man and outperformed him...for a fraction of his salary.

My aunt had the same thing happen to her; it was a bond between us. She was the only working woman I knew when I was growing up. Her mentally ill husband ran up debts and committed suicide, and she almost lost everything because no one would give her credit, though she'd had an excellent job (for a woman) for years. She finally found one banker who did, so that she was able to save her house and farm. She had a master's degree and almost finished her doctorate, but one day when she was working on her final requirements, she heard her boss walk by, talking about her to someone else. "When Agnes finishes her doctorate, I'll get a big raise." She decided she didn't need to put money in his pocket and put her pen down, never to finish the degree.

For all our horror stories, let's not forget to be grateful to the women of previous generations. They had it worse!

I think I was born with it. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #1
I believe women's colleges can be very beneficial to young women obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #3
I loved my townhouse! But I also loved my fabulous race car set. Squinch Jun 2012 #7
My townhouse was soon taken over by stuffed animal squatters obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #10
+1 Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #16
Me too, or so much a part of my folks' approach, elleng Jun 2012 #27
That's very interesting obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #34
No, Columbia, SOUTH CAROLINA! elleng Jun 2012 #37
For real? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #40
Yes, for real. elleng Jun 2012 #42
I became a lawyer too. Only profession that seems to suit me. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #48
Ditto, and very sorry to be retired. elleng Jun 2012 #50
See if you can't work for the public defender's office. no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #55
That's good. elleng Jun 2012 #56
Being given equal access to athletic practice fields obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #2
Interesting question. Lindsay Jun 2012 #4
So did I, Lindsay! elleng Jun 2012 #29
1959 madamesilverspurs Jun 2012 #5
Two incidents. One in first grade. immoderate Jun 2012 #6
A course I took in sex-role stereotyping in education TrogL Jun 2012 #8
That sounds really interesting obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #9
When I got a Betsy Wetsy for Christmas instead of the gun and holster set I wanted. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #11
I hung out around guys half my life. Neoma Jun 2012 #12
In college, when I as a female was denied the same amount of food in the cafeteria that males FLyellowdog Jun 2012 #13
BRAVO! elleng Jun 2012 #31
A couple of early memories stand out from school, and one more recent revelation. yardwork Jun 2012 #14
Wow, I had three similar experiences Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #17
So some of the men were deliberately stealing the women's ideas, right out in the open? yardwork Jun 2012 #23
Yup. It wasn't even subtle. Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #44
Yeah, that whole "men co-opting ideas" thing kdmorris Jun 2012 #22
Probably when dad told me that college was useless for women Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #15
Seems kind of shallow. Neoma Jun 2012 #18
He got me good. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #41
Some men just hate women being better at something than they are Whisp Jun 2012 #26
I had this fantasy that the art boys would be more egalitarian. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #33
I don't think it was just one moment for me libodem Jun 2012 #19
When my 14 yr old youngest sister became pregnant, choices were not discussed, Zorra Jun 2012 #20
I'm so sorry that that happened to your sisters and you. That's sad. yardwork Jun 2012 #24
Thanks, yardwork. Zorra Jun 2012 #36
Common story unfortunately. Neoma Jun 2012 #43
When I was 9, I think, we when I really started kdmorris Jun 2012 #21
I grew up on a farm Whisp Jun 2012 #25
1972, when working the Chamber of Commerce... yellerpup Jun 2012 #28
One of my first jobs the dress code Whisp Jun 2012 #45
Triggers... yellerpup Jun 2012 #46
Ridiculous is the word. yellerpup Jul 2012 #60
1972! catrose Jun 2012 #52
I enjoyed reading your anecdotes of times past yellerpup Jul 2012 #57
Thanks much catrose Jul 2012 #61
I enjoy lavishing attention on the elders yellerpup Jul 2012 #63
WTF, Mom? catrose Jul 2012 #65
Poor thing, yellerpup Jul 2012 #66
I'm so sorry catrose Jul 2012 #67
I am thankful every day yellerpup Jul 2012 #68
That sounds exactly like my grandmother. You aren't my aunt by any chance are you? yardwork Jul 2012 #69
Could be, yardwork! yellerpup Jul 2012 #70
College, my senior year. 1968-69. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #30
When I was in high school (1973) and applied for a kennel job at a local kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #32
I think it's very interesting how the vet field has shifted so much obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #35
My class (1982) was only the third to have more than the token 1 or 2 women for kicking around. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #39
My friend and I wanted to take drafting in high school yellerpup Jun 2012 #47
Freshman year, I was 13 LadyHawkAZ Jun 2012 #38
I was very annoyed and went in to meet with my high school principal TBF Jun 2012 #49
When I saw my mother as a human being for the first time. Xipe Totec Jun 2012 #51
When my friends and I fought with the school board Frustratedlady Jun 2012 #53
Born in '47 MOMFUDSKI Jun 2012 #54
The Church Whisp Jul 2012 #58
I once tried to sneak in my Mark Twain book into church to read. Neoma Jul 2012 #59
I just want to say that I am really enjoying reading this thread. yardwork Jul 2012 #62
I think it's really interesting, too obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #64
This was a good OP. Thank you for posting! yardwork Jul 2012 #71
I honestly don't remember. I was raised Catholic by a single father, LeftyMom Jul 2012 #72
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