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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts) Sat Jul 25, 2015, 05:12 PM Jul 2015

In your opinion, what is the Second Amendment? n/t [View all]

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In your opinion, what is the Second Amendment? n/t [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 OP

In bad, bad need of revision to make it appropriate for today. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #1

Thanks for the reply discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #3

Sure - it was written a few hundred years ago. Militia. Muskets. Totally different country NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #5

Interesting perspective discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #8

here's the other issue - differences of culture, opinions, backgrounds. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #17

Some other thoughts discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #24

I've loved this exchange. thanks! if I don't learn something each day, I am disappointed. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #29

Now if only I could have some fried green tomatoes discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #31

I beg to differ. Straw Man Jul 2015 #64

You can have guns rock Jul 2015 #2

Not just guns but "arms". n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #4

And what distinction are you trying to draw? rock Jul 2015 #11

Arms would not be guns when they were some other type of arm discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #14

Very neat! rock Jul 2015 #18

Sorry I don't throw cats discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #25

You left out Minuteman missles. TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #19

People do own tanks and heavy weapons. beevul Jul 2015 #22

I left out a lot but you get the idea discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #27

Black’s Law Dictionary according to discntnt_irny_srcsm (above) rock Jul 2015 #36

It's true discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #37

So the S.A.L.T. agreements were only about weapons a man can carry. TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #42

In the context of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #49

Protects people's right to own muskets should a militia be needed to protect the U.S. ... Auggie Jul 2015 #6

Why the limit of the musket? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #9

I was wondering if... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #65

The precursor to the state National Guards n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #7

The Bill of Rights discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #10

Protection for the pre-existing individual right to own small arms, petronius Jul 2015 #12

Many people resist that idea discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #15

And there it is. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #56

A compromise WMDemocract Jul 2015 #13

As I recall it was a compromise and only 10 of the 12 proposed made it discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #32

I think the militia qualification was a "yes, and" and not an "only if" clause. HappyPlace Jul 2015 #16

That's how I read it as well, as far as plain English is concerned: the preface is petronius Jul 2015 #21

Good analogy! HappyPlace Jul 2015 #52

Agreed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #48

The most misinterpreted Amendment in our Constitution randr Jul 2015 #20

Which is what? N/t beevul Jul 2015 #23

Read it--couldn't be more clear randr Jul 2015 #34

That tells me nothing about what you think it says. N/T beevul Jul 2015 #35

To paraphrase... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #47

That is correct randr Jul 2015 #50

I agree. The government needs the 2nd to fulfill its Article 1 obligations. And I have my own. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #66

Hear, hear! discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #67

i am pissed the WELL REGULATED IS ALWAYS FORGOTTEN. pansypoo53219 Jul 2015 #26

But it isn't TeddyR Jul 2015 #28

In North America in the last half of the 18th century... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #45

An anachronism Warpy Jul 2015 #30

The Constitution did not forbid standing armies and... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #33

"Should" and "ought" don't work in real life. Warpy Jul 2015 #39

You'd have to ask Teddy Roosevelt, his quote discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #43

He's dead. Warpy Jul 2015 #57

If you say so n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #59

Ouija board tell you that? melm00se Aug 2015 #70

The role of the militia is not to fight foreign wars the band leader Jul 2015 #41

Protects an individual right to keep and bear arms. Nt hack89 Jul 2015 #38

The Second Amendment TeddyR Jul 2015 #40

Prohibits the government from infringing on the inherent and universal right of the people to be Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #44

That pretty much covers it discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #46

don't neccessarily see how 2nd means gun ownership for all w0nderer Jul 2015 #51

"let the flames and hiding this post commence" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #53

No flaming here. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #54

Welcome to GC & RKBA discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #55

thanks for the welcome w0nderer Jul 2015 #60

"also all for mental checks " beergood Aug 2015 #68

same thing that stops an army (or police) shrink w0nderer Aug 2015 #69

"notice i want training/organization" beergood Aug 2015 #71

The Constitution recognizes enumerated and non-enumerated individual rights. 2A is one... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #58

Its a restriction on governmental power, which protects rights... beevul Jul 2015 #61

Good one discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #62

Before anything else matters we need to be able to protect ourselves and families. ileus Jul 2015 #63