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In reply to the discussion: In your opinion, what is the Second Amendment? n/t [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)33. The Constitution did not forbid standing armies and...
...the Bill of Rights came after the Constitution which came after the Articles.
Having every lunatic, curious child, and felon able to access guns is not working. Period.
Maybe we need to cure the lunatic or prevent lunacy and maybe even parent the child as all children deserve. Both of those are difficult when the middle class is economically oppressed and the 1%ers are fixated on profit only.
The difficulty with having an army or militia is that skill at arms is not something one learns in short order. For 100+ years this country has been pushing itself into wars in foreign lands. Some of them where we had no business being involved. As bad as it may be, butting in where we don't belong, but getting involved and losing is even worse.
"The great body of our citizens shoot less as times goes on. We should encourage rifle practice among schoolboys, and indeed among all classes, as well as in the military services by every means in our power. Thus, and not otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving peace in the world
The first step in the direction of preparation to avert war if possible, and to be fit for war if it should come is to teach men to shoot!"
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Sure - it was written a few hundred years ago. Militia. Muskets. Totally different country
NRaleighLiberal
Jul 2015
#5
here's the other issue - differences of culture, opinions, backgrounds.
NRaleighLiberal
Jul 2015
#17
I've loved this exchange. thanks! if I don't learn something each day, I am disappointed.
NRaleighLiberal
Jul 2015
#29
Protects people's right to own muskets should a militia be needed to protect the U.S. ...
Auggie
Jul 2015
#6
As I recall it was a compromise and only 10 of the 12 proposed made it
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Jul 2015
#32
I think the militia qualification was a "yes, and" and not an "only if" clause.
HappyPlace
Jul 2015
#16
That's how I read it as well, as far as plain English is concerned: the preface is
petronius
Jul 2015
#21
I agree. The government needs the 2nd to fulfill its Article 1 obligations. And I have my own.
Eleanors38
Aug 2015
#66
Prohibits the government from infringing on the inherent and universal right of the people to be
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#44
The Constitution recognizes enumerated and non-enumerated individual rights. 2A is one...
Eleanors38
Jul 2015
#58