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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
10. "Military style" is basically meaningless
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jun 2020

The features you want to ban:

  • keeps losing us elections
  • doesn't save lives.
  • doesn't drive Democratic turnout
  • does drive Republican turnout
  • are an arbitrary and moving standard
  • doesn't stop mass shootings
  • doesn't lower the crime rate
  • damages our credibility
  • doesn't lower new-gun sales
  • keeps Republicans in power
  • moves the Republican agenda forward


Let's face it... those "military" features are just ergonomics. Would you be happy if your office chair had a fixed height? How about if it didn't swivel? Or recline?

I'm going to presume that, given a choice, you'd order for your office a chair that has adjustable height, that swivels, has castors, reclines, has adjustable-height armrests, and that you can adjust the backrest forwards or backwards. And I'll bet you really like that little knob under the seat that adjusts how much spring tension is being applied to the reclining backrest.

Okay, then why are you so intent on making pistol grips on a rifle or shotgun illegal? It's a more comfortable design than a traditional straight stock. I mean, jeez, we don't ban PISTOLS, even though 90% of gun homicides are done with a handgun, but you want to ban pistol grips on long guns?

And quick-adjustable buttstocks. Why? People are different sizes, they wear different amounts of clothing, and they shoot from different positions. Why is a buttstock that I can simply lengthen or shorten without tools an "assault weapon" feature?

A bayonet-mounting lug. Really? When has criminal bayonet use EVER been a factor to worry about? But it's an "assault weapon" feature.



If you boss one day got rid of all the old chairs and replaced them with new ones were of a fixed height, that didn't recline, and didn't swivel, you'd probably be pissed. Especially if the reason the boss gave was a bullshit, emotional one.
Sorry. tazkcmo Jun 2020 #1
Will do The Mouth Jun 2020 #2
Whoa. Thank you for the read. I will be diving into it. Have a good day. Missn-Hitch Jun 2020 #5
Apparently some are fine with this sarisataka Jun 2020 #16
seriously? i don't support guns beyond the absolute minimum. Who cares who's organization is samsingh Jun 2020 #3
This Might Start a Really Gun Control Laws ace3csusm Jun 2020 #4
That may be what it takes! Wouldn't it be nice if all guns were heavily regulated. BComplex Jun 2020 #6
I'm all for second amendment rights ace3csusm Jun 2020 #7
I'd go along with all of that. BComplex Jun 2020 #8
"Military style" is basically meaningless krispos42 Jun 2020 #10
Because gunz are scarey mmmm'k The Mouth Jun 2020 #11
+1 DashOneBravo Jun 2020 #14
Absolutely not true. When assault rifles were banned during Clinton, we had far fewer deaths. BComplex Jun 2020 #21
You're not being clear. What are you claiming isn't true? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2020 #22
You proved his point re awb and murder rates jimmy the one Jun 2020 #23
I have the bifocals. Perhaps you're low on vitamin D. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2020 #24
memories, of the way we was jimmy the one Jun 2020 #26
Your inability to answer questions speaks volumes and is an answer. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2020 #27
machismo bravado jimmy the one Jun 2020 #31
Oh if only we were actually discussing 'gun ownership rates' discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2020 #32
Quoting one's own prior statements and simply reiterating them only demonstrates friendly_iconoclast Jun 2020 #30
The fewer gun deaths were not related to the "ban". ManiacJoe Jun 2020 #25
You have been misinformed, sadly krispos42 Jun 2020 #29
So racism is ok sarisataka Jun 2020 #15
Gun control advocates here have *always* been willing to elide and defend racism... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2020 #18
Another stop and frisk proponent sarisataka Jun 2020 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author jimmy the one Jun 2020 #33
Opinions vs. facts Straw Man Jun 2020 #19
What it takes? Straw Man Jun 2020 #20
In Trump's racist America, J_William_Ryan Jun 2020 #9
Not just Black Americans. Cheers. Missn-Hitch Jun 2020 #12
Democrats own guns DashOneBravo Jun 2020 #13
Sorry, no can do jimmy the one Jun 2020 #17
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