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In reply to the discussion: Hey Gunners! Ya know who ya are and who I'm talkin' to. [View all]AndyS
(14,559 posts)12. I really don't like cut n paste replies but this one's best this way . . .
Federal laws on buying new firearms are as strict as ever.
The take away is NOT STRICT ENOUGH.
True the AWB expired, but homicides by AWB were and are a tiny amount contribution to the statistics.
Yes, and toddlers shooting each other is a small contribution as are mass shootings and so if we discount each segment of artificially defined category we arrive at no problem at all! Define it away and problem solved!
I think more states have universal background check requirements than ever before.
Whoopie shit! Our 'background check is a joke. 40% of reporting agencies don't bother 'cause it's voluntary. It isn't a background check because it doesn't look at your background only half of your criminal record, not social media or employers or family. It's a fucking joke.
Stand Your Ground Laws have nothing to do with the availability of guns.
Availability of guns has everything to do with using a gun to stand your ground. You're not stupid so don't expect me to be stupid.
Concealed carry laws have loosened up considerably, but its what the people want.
No, it's not. It's what the gun lobby wants. In Texas before the "Constitutional carry" (it's not Constitutional) was passed polls showed 80% voters opposed and the same for law enforcement.
Having said that, universal background checks and raising the Federal age for rifles could really help.
I've addressed background checks above and throwing your "it's a tiny % of gun violence" back at ya' age for rifles is a pittance. I'll take it if I can get it but it's not a real fix.
My point is that we had even easier access to firearms in the past and we didn't see the mass shootings and overall gun-related homicide rates we do now. Something has changed with the American public with regard killing fellow citizens.
Your point is misplaced and mere diversion. It's no more difficult nor easier to get a gun today than any other time. There's just a lot more of them to get. Never has there been more guns than people than now.
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I had no idea that I, as the only one suggesting a ban on semi autos with removable magazines,
AndyS
Jan 2023
#22
Unstable people may be the killers but a society that shrugs rather than getting around to a fix ...
sanatanadharma
Jan 2023
#4
There are people that are mentally ill, disgruntled employees, racists, improperly
doc03
Jan 2023
#6
True. But I haven't heard anyone on DU explain it the way you have. So, thank you.
ancianita
Jan 2023
#53
Well, in 81 years I have not gone off the deep end and rushed out to shoot people
Hangingon
Jan 2023
#38
Well, in 81 years I have not gone off the deep end and rushed out to shoot people
Hangingon
Jan 2023
#39