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TPaine7

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4. I read the opinion, and to this layman it sounded like the court seriously disagreed with
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:22 PM
Dec 2012

NYC's "may issue":

The New York gun law upheld in Kachalsky, although
one of the nation’s most restrictive such laws (under
the law’s “proper cause” standard, an applicant for a
gun permit must demonstrate a need for self-defense
greater than that of the general public, such as being
the target of personal threats, id. at *3, *8), is less restrictive
than Illinois’s law. Our principal reservation about
the Second Circuit ’s analy s i s (apart from
disagreement, unnecessary to bore the reader with,
with some of the historical analysis in the opinion—
we regard the historical issues as settled by Heller)
is its suggestion that the Second Amendment should
have much greater scope inside the home than
outside simply because other provisions of the Constitution
have been held to make that distinction. For example,
the opinion states that “in Lawrence v. Texas, the
[Supreme] Court emphasized that the state’s efforts to
regulate private sexual conduct between consenting adults
is especially suspect when it intrudes into the home.”
2012 WL 5907502, at *9. Well of course—the interest in
having sex inside one’s home is much greater than
the interest in having sex on the sidewalk in front of
one’s home. But the interest in self-protection is as great
outside as inside the home.


If the right exists outside the home just as certainly as it does inside the home, it's hard to see how "may issue" can survive. Guns inside the home are not "may issue."
They weren't ordered to craft 'shall-issue' legislation thought, right? My bet is that petronius Dec 2012 #1
I read the opinion, and to this layman it sounded like the court seriously disagreed with TPaine7 Dec 2012 #4
Very interesting - guess I'd better read before formulating too much petronius Dec 2012 #8
The full text of the opinion with the Court's reasoning can be found here: AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #16
Thanks! I'll take a look... petronius Dec 2012 #17
The opinion was written by Posner and the Court's reasoning includes this: AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #18
We've essentially got an unregulated gun acquisition and free fire zone. Loudly Dec 2012 #2
Wow, "toasting a cap in your ass." You must have serious street cred. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #3
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #5
And a good day to you too, sir! TPaine7 Dec 2012 #6
You're wishing for it. Not me! n/t Loudly Dec 2012 #7
Just so I understand... TPaine7 Dec 2012 #9
This kind of thing is what got Loudly banned ... Straw Man Dec 2012 #20
That's our SHARES ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #27
I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning. n/t Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #15
Please at least make an effort to get your phony street slang right slackmaster Dec 2012 #19
I think he was making an awkward play on "toasting your health". n/t NewMoonTherian Dec 2012 #23
You're a zombie ghoul. Straw Man Dec 2012 #21
people that will be eligible for concealed handgun licenses aren't the ones trouble.smith Dec 2012 #10
Most of the shootings in Chicago are a result of gangs fighting over turf. ... spin Dec 2012 #11
I think the New York "broken windows" approach actually affected crime, and this might just be TPaine7 Dec 2012 #12
You might be right. Perhaps time will tell. (n/t) spin Dec 2012 #13
+1 AlexSatan Dec 2012 #22
I don't know for sure what will happen but I will bet Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #14
This will happen Glassunion Dec 2012 #24
OH NOES!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!11! TPaine7 Dec 2012 #25
ROFL!!!! PavePusher Dec 2012 #28
Hell yeah it does! Glassunion Dec 2012 #29
I voted homocides will go down, partly out of hope... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #26
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