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BigmanPigman

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9. When I was a teacher in Southern CA I had to teach the state curriculum.

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 04:18 PM

Sep 2017

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We teachers knew it was one sided and cringed when we taught it as part of the state's history in 4th grade. Father Serra was canonized a few years ago and many people (myself included) did not support this action. I give free tours at the Father Junipero Serra Museum in Presidio Park in Old Town San Diego. I tell the truth about this very cruel "saint". He and his Spanish intruders forced the native Kumeyaay Indains into slave labor and were physically harmed (and killed) if they resisted his forced conversion into Christianity. Many of them resisted but their efforts were often punished. This was the way native cultures have been treated for thousands of years in all societies.. No wonder I am an Atheist.

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An artistic statment?: Junipero Serra statue beheaded, splashed with red paint in Central California [View all] guillaumeb Sep 2017 OP

Well... trotsky Sep 2017 #1

Perhaps you should take this issue up with the author of the article. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #2

I'm taking it up with you, since you posted it here. trotsky Sep 2017 #3

Again: guillaumeb Sep 2017 #4

Your OP was very light on details. trotsky Sep 2017 #6

You asked if it was an "artistic statement." MineralMan Sep 2017 #7

Art is often political. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #13

And bullshit often grows exponentially. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #19

LOL! MineralMan Sep 2017 #20

Why were you not commenting on that? It was brought up in MineralMan Sep 2017 #8

so is this good news or bad news? Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #11

You are free to decide for yourself. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #14

It is a statement. "Celebrating efforts at cultural genocide has been noted" AtheistCrusader Sep 2017 #21

No. It was vandalism, no doubt, perhaps with a political message. MineralMan Sep 2017 #5

Performance art, vandalism, a socio-political commentary on Serra. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #16

When I was a teacher in Southern CA I had to teach the state curriculum. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #9

Kind of like ISIS Cartoonist Sep 2017 #12

You were teaching actual history, as opposed to the mythologized version guillaumeb Sep 2017 #17

No, just the opposite, BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #18

Serra was a monster. The statue and his canonization is an affront to many native americans. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #10

Many First Peoples ARE offended by statues to colonialists. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #15