2016 Postmortem

Uncle Joe

(58,764 posts) Fri May 27, 2016, 03:34 PM May 2016

Why The Young Turks, and their viewers, love Bernie Sanders (WAPO) [View all]

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“In the old days, TV had a lot of power, but that’s shifting now,” Uygur said in an interview at TYT’s Culver City headquarters, a former bar that’s home to two fully outfitted studios, a shelf of awards and an iguana mascot — Mayaguana — who just showed up one day. “So we’d better figure out how to use that power for the issues we care about, because cable TV is worse than propaganda. It’s marketing for the rich and powerful.”

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“MSNBC and CNN are horrible,” said Afton Tarin, 30, a photographer who attended the Anaheim rally. “Cenk is really big on making sure he explains what the media is saying, and explains the reality it’s not covering. I’m seeing these events from the same perspective. Nevada’s a good example. MSNBC said we were throwing chairs. I watched every video — nobody threw a chair. And Cenk was honest about that.”

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Nearly 3 million people subscribe to TYT’s YouTube channel; for comparison, 1.4 million subscribe to CNN, and 100,000 subscribe to the millennial-focused and consciously hip Fusion. At Sanders’s California rallies, TYT personalities risk being mobbed by fans. On Sunday, as he tried to cover a Sanders speech in Irvine, Jimmy Dore was spotted by dozens of fans who turned and shouted his catchphrase — “Don’t freak out!” So many of them rushed him for photos that the event’s security had to shoo them away.

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Uygur himself sidestepped the crowd by speaking from the stage. “Do you trust the establishment media?” he asked a booing crowd in Anaheim. “Do you think they’ve treated Bernie Sanders fairly?”

When the boos subsided, he offered a theory of why Sanders couldn’t get fair coverage: “corporate media” and its advertisers.

“This cycle alone, they are going to put $4 billion into political ads,” he said. “You think TV wants to change that? They look at Bernie Sanders and say, ‘Whoa, that guy’s gonna rock the boat.’ We look at Bernie Sanders and say: ‘Damn right he is!’?”

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/why-the-young-turks-and-their-viewers-love-bernie-sanders/2016/05/27/bd15e02e-2386-11e6-aa84-42391ba52c91_story.html

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Why The Young Turks, and their viewers, love Bernie Sanders (WAPO) [View all] Uncle Joe May 2016 OP

Cenk and reality don't belong in the same sentence. Garrett78 May 2016 #1

The corporate media conglomerates only concern with "reality" is in trying to manipulate it. Uncle Joe May 2016 #2

So can O'Malley. Corporate666 May 2016 #15

If the corporate media conglomerates; wanted O'Malley and weren't in the bag for Hillary from Uncle Joe May 2016 #18

The corporate media conglomerates are in the bag for Bernie Corporate666 May 2016 #39

If the corporate media conglomerates had been in the bag for Bernie, Uncle Joe May 2016 #41

Thank you, Uncle Joe. Very well said. Enthusiast May 2016 #53

So it isn't manipulation when Cenk proclaims Sanders will win Super Tuesday? Really? randome May 2016 #56

Cenk clearly lays out where his loyalties lay, unlike most of the corporate media conglomerations Uncle Joe May 2016 #57

But doesn't that put him on par with the likes of Rush Limbaugh? randome May 2016 #58

Is Rush Limbaugh evil? Uncle Joe May 2016 #59

He's prominent in the GOP gallery. randome May 2016 #60

That's not a straight answer, is Rush Limbaugh evil? Uncle Joe May 2016 #61

Didn't think you were serious. randome May 2016 #62

Why do you believe he's unhealthy to public discourse? n/t Uncle Joe May 2016 #63

This is becoming an odd sub-thread. I assume you have a point here. randome May 2016 #64

The point is this, Limbaugh's speech and personal behavior are all about promoting evil. Uncle Joe May 2016 #65

Link please to his saying Bernie won super Tuesday cali May 2016 #7

Sure thing. Garrett78 May 2016 #8

So he did not say that Bernie won Super Tuesday. cali May 2016 #13

The title of his article is, "Why Bernie Sanders Won Super Tuesday." Garrett78 May 2016 #16

Oh you are on type of people that only read headlines. TimPlo May 2016 #43

Nope, I read the whole article. Did you? Garrett78 May 2016 #50

Well that's a lie. Did you read what you posted? It's @ winning the media cycle nt riderinthestorm May 2016 #19

First lines of the article: "Bernie won Super Tuesday! Let me explain why." Garrett78 May 2016 #24

Ok, so you didn't read it. Shrug. That's on you. Its @ the media cycle and momentum riderinthestorm May 2016 #26

Yeah, I read it back when it was first posted and again today. Did you read it? Garrett78 May 2016 #34

How can an opinion be false? RAFisher May 2016 #14

There's nothing in his article about media. Nice try. Garrett78 May 2016 #37

-1.nt Snotcicles May 2016 #42

do any of our media really promote reality? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #55

There's no doubt US media is lacking, to put it mildly. Garrett78 May 2016 #66

And to think I thought that Sanders' appeal was the $18 trillion in new entitlements that he Trust Buster May 2016 #3

Republican talking point. mmonk May 2016 #4

No, it's a fact. All those college students don't flock to his rallies because they don't think that Trust Buster May 2016 #10

Apparently 170 economists agree with Bernie's economics. Uncle Joe May 2016 #6

Including James K. Galbraith and William K. Black. Octafish May 2016 #38

Thank you, Octafish. Uncle Joe May 2016 #40

That is bullshit. He didn't promise it. cali May 2016 #9

College students want immediate debt relief. Younger people think in shorter time frames. Trust Buster May 2016 #12

MSM is pollution oldandhappy May 2016 #5

TYT is like a remora and bernie is like the shark. nt msongs May 2016 #11

Nobody has spent more money on corporate media advertising than Sanders geek tragedy May 2016 #17

Not if you count Hillary's super pacs and their unlimited spending which is what the Uncle Joe May 2016 #20

Yes, if you count SuperPacs Sanders has still outspent Clinton, and everyone else geek tragedy May 2016 #27

A cynical person might ignore the fact that Hillary had universal name recognition from the start, Uncle Joe May 2016 #30

DWS is a clown and should be fired. geek tragedy May 2016 #32

I totally agree with your first sentence but I believe the second sentence is a symptom Uncle Joe May 2016 #35

The reason I started paying attention was that he always got to the heart of an issue pdsimdars May 2016 #21

TYT is my favorite news program although I do view CNN basically because of Sun Tzu's lessons. Uncle Joe May 2016 #23

I love how an organization that took $4m from a 2012 Republican presidential candidate... TwilightZone May 2016 #22

Sometimes disparate political opponents can find common ground, this has been the case Uncle Joe May 2016 #25

For a group of people who assume that every dollar spent has only one intent - influence... TwilightZone May 2016 #28

Have you ever seen TYT promote Republicans or conservatives for office? Uncle Joe May 2016 #33

They're dreadful. NurseJackie May 2016 #29

Thanks Uncle Joe. Been a TYT listener since about 2007. floriduck May 2016 #31

Thank you, floriduck. Uncle Joe May 2016 #36

While I am happy that HRC will be the nominee, a Bernie win would have been a teachable moment. BzaDem May 2016 #44

Hillary hasn't won yet and Bernie can get much more accomplished than Hillary would be able to do. Uncle Joe May 2016 #46

Let's imagine hypothetically that he can't get any more accomplished than Hillary would. BzaDem May 2016 #48

Okay to begin with if Bernie were to become President and upset the prohibitively favored Hillary Uncle Joe May 2016 #49

Having a "mandate" means very little. BzaDem May 2016 #52

Candidate Obama never ran on a crystal clear cut mandate in the fashion that Bernie is. Uncle Joe May 2016 #54

I read this as the Washington Post dismissing TYT as rock stars to their viewers and readers. Todays_Illusion May 2016 #45

There is that element but I view the article as more balanced. Uncle Joe May 2016 #47

maverick enid602 May 2016 #51