2016 Postmortem

aikoaiko

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45. Maybe, I'm just tired of all the pretend bullshit in this primary.

Reply to tom-servo (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:52 AM

Jun 2016

I'm tired of pretending that any of this will mean a difference.

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An alternate history... [View all] tom-servo Jun 2016 OP

You actually typed this out bravenak Jun 2016 #1

I didn't see another way to post it other than typing. tom-servo Jun 2016 #8

*snort* Recursion Jun 2016 #22

Heehee - you made me laugh out loud!!!! 840high Jun 2016 #129

So, Bernie was cheated out of the nomination? And all his supporters were too.. boston bean Jun 2016 #2

I think more damage has been done to the party than it seems... tom-servo Jun 2016 #7

Someone is missing something, alright. boston bean Jun 2016 #30

I agree Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #99

Do you honestly think that about Clinton supporters? Generic Brad Jun 2016 #121

this Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #124

Sigh Generic Brad Jun 2016 #125

Ok Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #134

This primary season was so outrageous, I no longer believe we have fair elections. reformist2 Jun 2016 #107

Filling stadiums doesn't mean anything if voting booths aren't filled. brush Jun 2016 #108

This is satire, right? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #109

To me, your post looks like satire. If your candidate cannot fill gymnasiums, it should be obvious reformist2 Jun 2016 #113

No, the "extraordinary contortions of logic" are required to believe rally sizes equate to votes. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #114

I wouldn't say he was cheated out of it democrattotheend Jun 2016 #50

... LexVegas Jun 2016 #3

Oh, you are right. djean111 Jun 2016 #4

the. democratic leadership knew... artyteacher Jun 2016 #5

They are missing a bigger picture. tom-servo Jun 2016 #9

and yet indigoth Jun 2016 #16

He has been elected to public office for decades in Vermont oberliner Jun 2016 #19

As Kingfish Long said way back in the day Recursion Jun 2016 #23

Do you have a citation for that quote? oberliner Jun 2016 #34

Good question: I'll PM you if I find it Recursion Jun 2016 #62

Cool - thanks! oberliner Jun 2016 #65

I agree with that treestar Jun 2016 #60

But the white workers in West Virginia voting for a socialist were dismissed as racist JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #66

Unpack that Recursion Jun 2016 #71

I'm just saying that white Dems/Indies voted for a more left-wing candidate than others JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #72

I disagree. That presumes Sanders is to the "left" of Clinton Recursion Jun 2016 #76

Okay, then that's the real nexus of our difference. That's cool. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #79

He praised the higher taxation of upper incomes n the fifties. raging moderate Jun 2016 #126

Which ignores the fact that racism was not incidental to that system Recursion Jun 2016 #132

Don't gloss over the posters point brush Jun 2016 #110

I thought that's what I was saying Recursion Jun 2016 #115

Sorry, responded to the wrong post. brush Jun 2016 #120

Polls today about the GE do not mean what you think they do. There's historical context for early BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #24

And that is the same thing that Clinton supporters would do in the general. tom-servo Jun 2016 #39

communist connections? Did you say 'communist connections' ? pangaia Jun 2016 #38

what does my job/hobby... artyteacher Jun 2016 #43

You realize that Moscow is a sister city to Burlington, Vt. right? panader0 Jun 2016 #64

No, it's not. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #105

It's always so easy to tell when someone is not a woman. athena Jun 2016 #6

Very disappointing to see misogynist amongst Sanders voters. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #13

I believe Hillary Clinton has done... tom-servo Jun 2016 #14

And every moment we go without a first female president sarae Jun 2016 #118

And I'm a little tired of being labeled a misogynist... tom-servo Jun 2016 #136

Oh, bullshit. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #63

No one said being a woman makes one a feminist. athena Jun 2016 #73

Obviously. But in my case, that's precisely what I am. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #74

No feminist would post what you posted. athena Jun 2016 #75

"no true Scotsman" Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #77

Are you also a meat-eating "vegan" athena Jun 2016 #78

"straw man" Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #80

I just saw your Transparency page. athena Jun 2016 #84

"argumentum ad hominem" Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #87

+1000 sarae Jun 2016 #117

Thank you. sarae Jun 2016 #116

What if Sanders formed friendships and partnerships with Democrats during his career? FSogol Jun 2016 #10

Might be things he wished he'd done... tom-servo Jun 2016 #18

He ran a populist campaign. However, more people voted for HRC and she won. FSogol Jun 2016 #33

Primary voters... tom-servo Jun 2016 #47

More "people" voted for HRC. FSogol Jun 2016 #57

Yes, and her supporters seem to think that this is... tom-servo Jun 2016 #96

There's no way around your opinion? randome Jun 2016 #55

Many pundits think he ran the best primary campaign of either the GOP or Democratic party. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #67

And pundits are so often right... right? (wink) (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #81

What people? theboss Jun 2016 #93

Cute... tom-servo Jun 2016 #97

All of this Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #51

The fundamental problem with his campaign is he is NOT a Democrat theboss Jun 2016 #95

Wish I could rec your post. auntpurl Jun 2016 #53

Wish I could rec your sig line PJMcK Jun 2016 #82

Absolutely agreed. auntpurl Jun 2016 #83

Sanders is still living an alternate history liberal N proud Jun 2016 #11

No we lost the General Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #12

Sanders has baggage? tom-servo Jun 2016 #20

Absolutely Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #59

On another board a Sanders supporter mused that voting is a "relic of the old world." DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #15

On this board a Hillary supporter mused the Constitution is ''old and outmoded'' Octafish Jun 2016 #69

Those two cretins need to get a room. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #70

It IS the party of the people, but those people voted for Clinton. Instead of disparaging them maybe BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #17

To me it really isn't about a "candidate loss"... tom-servo Jun 2016 #25

Except that you write ridiculous sentences like this and then want to be taken seriously: BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #35

A solely crowd funded campaign that does this well in an election... tom-servo Jun 2016 #40

What if a tiny handful of Bernie holdouts accepted the fact that not everyone loves the man Tarc Jun 2016 #21

It has nothing to do with Bernie Sanders... tom-servo Jun 2016 #29

It has everything to do with you bitterness and stubbornness in the face of electoral defeat Tarc Jun 2016 #42

I wish I could be certain that was the case. tom-servo Jun 2016 #44

Time to update your sig line. auntpurl Jun 2016 #54

Six 6 days in on the generous side. :) Tarc Jun 2016 #61

Actually you're right Tarc Jun 2016 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Tarc Jun 2016 #58

Well said, Tarc PJMcK Jun 2016 #86

I think they really believed he wouldn't win more than Vermont... TCJ70 Jun 2016 #26

A 55.6%-42.7% win .. a nearly 13 point win, is a "walloping" win in politics. n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #52

It kind of is. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #111

Stuff like that doesn't happen. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #27

It's fun to imagine better of people sometimes. tom-servo Jun 2016 #31

Maybe, I'm just tired of all the pretend bullshit in this primary. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #45

Sanders smeared a lot of Dems a lot of the time. Democrats coddled Sanders. Another false accusation seabeyond Jun 2016 #28

Democrats coddled Sanders? tom-servo Jun 2016 #32

Yes. They never went after him. seabeyond Jun 2016 #48

If all that had been a possibility, Bernie would not have had to run. pangaia Jun 2016 #36

Good point. tom-servo Jun 2016 #41

Is counter factual imagining a stage of grief? alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #37

'Her turn' takes on a whole new meaning to me now a days madokie Jun 2016 #46

If only Israelites and Palestinians could live together. randome Jun 2016 #49

I know it's a little foreign to the cynically minded... tom-servo Jun 2016 #122

I agree. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #127

Yeah, how did we lose that? tom-servo Jun 2016 #135

tick tock.. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #56

What if a premise was actually supported with objective evidence rather than rhetoric and allegation LanternWaste Jun 2016 #68

Now imagine what I think rock Jun 2016 #85

Ok... tom-servo Jun 2016 #98

Truer Words... kadaholo Jun 2016 #89

Democrats judged Hillary and Bernie workinclasszero Jun 2016 #90

What if LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #91

And he still would have lost the black vote theboss Jun 2016 #92

Why is it that Democrats... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #94

Plenty of party front-runners entering election season have fallen during the primaries. pampango Jun 2016 #100

THEY CAN STILL RECOGNIZE THAT AND DO IT IN SOME FASHION. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #101

It's possible... tom-servo Jun 2016 #123

Thank you tom kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #102

It would have been perfectly acceptable to at least treat him fairly. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #103

Exactly. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #128

.that^ 840high Jun 2016 #130

Your outline for an alternate history SciFi novel Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #104

How about this alternate history? Buzz cook Jun 2016 #106

What if? What if? What if? What if? VOX Jun 2016 #112

I grew up to be a Porn Star Night Watchman Jun 2016 #119

meanwhile, in reality, the party may be ripped apart by the arrogance of its leaders. eom Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #131

I think this is possible... tom-servo Jun 2016 #133