2016 Postmortem

bvar22

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131. I still have problems with Biden's vote to protect the usurous Credit Card Industry

Sat Jul 25, 2015, 03:34 PM

Jul 2015

Last edited Sat Jul 25, 2015, 04:33 PM - Edit history (1)

I realize the entire Credit Card Industry is located in his state,
but HOW does one justify supporting 30% interest for low wage earning Americans who are in a bind?
How does he sleep at night?

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A deadly serious question. [View all] hifiguy Jul 2015 OP

A *VERY* good question for Clinton and her supporters to answer.. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #1

Fuck Henry Kissinger JEB Jul 2015 #2

are pictures still worth a thousand words nationalize the fed Jul 2015 #8

There's a doozy of her with Murdoch, too. hifiguy Jul 2015 #17

Don't forget Donald Trump. He donated to her Senate Campaigns AND sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #49

Support our candidate, don't tear down other peoples. Agschmid Jul 2015 #65

It would be great if you stopped trying to tell people not to discuss ISSUES sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #69

I know him, I trust him, and I support most of his policy positions. Agschmid Jul 2015 #70

So you don't think that MONEY in politics is an important issue sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #71

If you're going to accuse me of lying about who I support in the first sentence... Agschmid Jul 2015 #72

This isn't about YOU. Once again, focus on the issues. Money is one of the most sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #77

You made it about me... Agschmid Jul 2015 #79

See your post #65 in response to my post ON THE ISSUE of money sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #80

Yes I've seen my post, I wrote it. Agschmid Jul 2015 #82

I agree, which is why I stick to the issues as I did in the post sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #85

Well Done , sabrina 1! bvar22 Jul 2015 #114

Actually it appears we agreed. Agschmid Jul 2015 #122

Actually it was a hijack Trajan Jul 2015 #127

So my candidate is Bernie just FYI... Agschmid Jul 2015 #128

Yeah....thats what they all say. bvar22 Jul 2015 #145

Luckily what people think about me has no effect on who I vote for. Agschmid Jul 2015 #148

in other words. spqr78 Jul 2015 #116

A friend on FB posted this. CrispyQ Jul 2015 #84

So true, but on the good side, thanks to eg, OWS, the issue of money sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #88

I just put that movie in my queue. CrispyQ Jul 2015 #94

In a way it's more relevant now, because more people are aware sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #143

I still have problems with Biden's vote to protect the usurous Credit Card Industry bvar22 Jul 2015 #131

That has always rankled me as well, hifiguy Jul 2015 #132

Yes, Biden has been good on some issues, but his voting record sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #144

OWS didn't do shit... unfortunately... dionysus Jul 2015 #139

LOL bvar22 Jul 2015 #147

As Carlin said, It's a club, and we aren't in it. nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #113

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #130

How dare you! L0oniX Jul 2015 #89

Birds of a feather.... bvar22 Jul 2015 #146

Vultures ARE birds, so true enough. hifiguy Jul 2015 #152

We Vietnam veterans who know how Kissinger helped prevent Johnson from ending the war daybranch Jul 2015 #109

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #129

Interesting that you picked Kissinger to fuck. He said power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. SusanaMontana41 Aug 2015 #154

That's part of the decision making process for primary voters. pa28 Jul 2015 #3

Yep. Tribunes of the people, hifiguy Jul 2015 #4

+1 arcane1 Jul 2015 #6

She didn't call him a "dear friend," she called him a friend. And yes, she's trying to pnwmom Jul 2015 #5

Hillary contributed financially to Bernie's campaign. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #7

Calling him a "defender of human rights" is vaguely positive? dflprincess Jul 2015 #10

She's being diplomatic. Better than being actual best buds with a creep like Scalia. pnwmom Jul 2015 #13

Calling him a "defender of human rights" dflprincess Jul 2015 #20

Kissinger is human excrement. Pinochet was his baby. Shameful. eom SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #103

Neither Orrin Hatch nor Scalia hifiguy Jul 2015 #18

How many people will die due to Medicaid not expanding? dsc Jul 2015 #21

Are you serious? Really? hifiguy Jul 2015 #26

I am not minimizing Kissinger dsc Jul 2015 #31

She's just being diplomatic. I know many people can't stand that about her. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #42

A defender of human rights frylock Jul 2015 #52

Yes, being diplomatic with war criminals is something I find intolerable. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #58

Call it "diplomacy" if you want. No matter how you spin it, schmoozing with a war criminal is not OK. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #105

of course you know the upside (for BCF enablers and family buddies) dionysus Jul 2015 #140

So tell me, RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #74

One can be "diplomatic" without actually praising the person. I think she was being "political". rhett o rick Jul 2015 #76

....and CHamberlain was "just" being diplomatic... bvar22 Jul 2015 #153

And don't forget about Cambodia. That whole fiasco caused the deaths of at least 1monster Jul 2015 #44

YES YES YES. So many warcrimes, so little political will. n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #104

Reagan gave us al Qaeda, The Little Chimp gave us ISIS hifiguy Jul 2015 #117

Okay. He's just a very good friend. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #22

That says it all. Right there. hifiguy Jul 2015 #30

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ no really ^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX Jul 2015 #91

I believe her friendship extends beyond merely collegial. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #25

Orin Hatch is not a war criminal responsible for Millions of deaths. JEB Jul 2015 #54

I think she treats him the same way she treats Putin. On the surface, they're friendly pnwmom Jul 2015 #55

So she's lying. Kissenger didn't actual counsel her as SoS. LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #75

If that's how you want to put it. I view it as her staying open to the possibility pnwmom Jul 2015 #86

Mitch McConnell refers to Harry Reid as "my friend", that's the way politicians are. George II Jul 2015 #97

Right. That's how people of opposite views manage to work together. n/t pnwmom Jul 2015 #98

Re: depopulation...he referred to .."useless eaters". dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #9

I'd say we know quite enough to draw conclusions. hifiguy Jul 2015 #12

Pretty blind. -none Jul 2015 #64

Don't forget David Coe. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #83

Oy. hifiguy Jul 2015 #118

An (apocryphal) quote: bvf Jul 2015 #11

Kissinger should be Thespian2 Jul 2015 #14

Henry Kissinger should be rotting in jail. SheilaT Jul 2015 #15

Well, she also misjudged Dubya's intentions with the IWR RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #37

Earlier today I was with a friend, SheilaT Jul 2015 #56

A-fuckin'-MEN! gregcrawford Jul 2015 #16

HRC - Never Met An Oligarchs Or Minion That Was Not To Be Liked cantbeserious Jul 2015 #19

yep 840high Jul 2015 #23

Thanks! Kissinger is a vampire. nt Zorra Jul 2015 #24

I see no problem with lionizing Henry Kissinger. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #27

Well played, indeed. hifiguy Jul 2015 #28

... zeemike Jul 2015 #32

May be too rubbery for the lions.... London Lover Man Jul 2015 #35

And they laugh when they do it. zeemike Jul 2015 #50

Would probably be like gnawing on an old boot. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #36

LOL! Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #46

Yes but maybe she has evolved. zeemike Jul 2015 #29

Yes ...we must look to the future. No point in dwelling on past friends or associates. L0oniX Jul 2015 #92

I find Kissinger to be a most unappealing sort of fellow Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #33

Kissinger should have been in the dock at the Hague years ago. LoisB Jul 2015 #34

I'd love to hear the Clinton spin on that. marble falls Jul 2015 #38

Keep digging..this stuff isn't going to make up 40 points! George II Jul 2015 #39

February's a long way off ibegurpard Jul 2015 #41

Every word is a fact that cannot be refuted. hifiguy Jul 2015 #43

. George II Jul 2015 #45

Kissinger a hero of yours? Feel good about re-appointing him to POTUS cabinet do ya? 2banon Jul 2015 #53

Did I say that Kissinger was a hero of mine? George II Jul 2015 #73

Dismissing completely the very significant question posed in the OP... 2banon Jul 2015 #100

How patronizing of you! George II Jul 2015 #102

Ok. Pardon Me. 2banon Jul 2015 #107

Crickets. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #120

ok, George, from a third party in the conversation: how do you feel about hillary's warm thoughts dionysus Jul 2015 #141

Shit, there are people here who would apologize for HRC hifiguy Jul 2015 #150

Considering that a good portion of those "words" are opinion, I don't agree. George II Jul 2015 #138

so you're a legitimate kissenger fan? dionysus Jul 2015 #142

Yes! As long as people remain fooled or ignorant, the truth is irrelevant! RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #47

Do you like Kissinger? nt artislife Jul 2015 #57

Why do you ask? George II Jul 2015 #96

Because that is the topic of the thread. nt artislife Jul 2015 #108

Well, if the topic of the thread really is "do you like Kissinger", why drag in Hillary Clinton? George II Jul 2015 #111

Because her friendship with him is the topic of the thread. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #121

Every time someone disagrees with you (or disagrees with an anti-Hillary hit piece), the story is... George II Jul 2015 #123

Because you're trying to disrupt. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #125

Well, we know it's a major selling point for her admirers. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #59

Ah ...another Hillary supporter that has no problem with her friend ...Kissinger. L0oniX Jul 2015 #93

Yeah, but look at what the guy said. Geez. Talking about how the priority of our PatrickforO Jul 2015 #137

Maybe she'll apologize ibegurpard Jul 2015 #40

If a photo of HRC and Cheney eating live kittens turned up hifiguy Jul 2015 #119

So now we know the Kissinger plan for people in the Third World - PatrickforO Jul 2015 #48

THat is straight out of the NAZI plan for expansion of the "Fatherland". bvar22 Jul 2015 #135

Henry Kissinger is a War Criminal. I would not be able to be polite to him sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #51

Another to NOT vote or support Hillary emsimon33 Jul 2015 #60

Clinton has her own little Chile in Honduras. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #61

Indeed. hifiguy Jul 2015 #62

We are all in a big way defined by who and what we support stupidicus Jul 2015 #63

Good question MissDeeds Jul 2015 #66

With friends like these... n/t Fearless Jul 2015 #67

Kissinger was involved with the overthrow of Allende and the rise of the fascist Pinochet in Chile. jalan48 Jul 2015 #68

Same ideology, for sure. n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #106

Hey, Kissinger won a Nobel Peace Prize for ending the Vietnam War. tclambert Jul 2015 #78

THANK YOU!!!! heaven05 Jul 2015 #81

A really fine post, hifiguy! vlakitti Jul 2015 #87

"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger L0oniX Jul 2015 #90

Even given all of the above ... staggerleem Jul 2015 #95

To coin a phrase Persondem Jul 2015 #99

Hillary and Dr. Strangelove are foreign policy birds of a feather. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #101

If we can't have Bernie for President then Hillary . . . R. P. McMurphy Jul 2015 #110

My Brother in Law Died in Vietnam Because of the Prolonged War McKim Jul 2015 #112

I am sorry you lost your bil, McKim. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #115

K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #124

fuck Henry Kissenger and his friends.... mike_c Jul 2015 #126

I don't give a flying fuck who she pals around with. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #133

Your delusion level is extraordinary. hifiguy Jul 2015 #134

I didn't give a flying fuck when the right wing was upset Obama paled around with Alinsky...... msanthrope Jul 2015 #136

I don't madokie Jul 2015 #149

A Person Is Known By The Company They Keep cantbeserious Jul 2015 #151

Different Opinions Gonzalo Oct 2015 #155