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Demsrule86

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Mon May 20, 2019, 12:48 PM May 2019

"Joe Biden's Bet That 2016 Didn't Change Everything" We still need the blue wall. How we win did not [View all]

Last edited Mon May 20, 2019, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)

change. Nor did we veer left as the media and some Democrats insisted. The midterms showed a different reality. 2016 was an aberration with a perfect storm of trouble that hit us. Hillary took criticism from the left and the right when that happens, we lose. Comey tipped the scale with both of his unprofessional statements, we had gerrymandering and voter suppression and of course the Russians. This was an aberration and we still need the same state we always did to win. Biden can win those states. In 2018, the house flipped because of moderate Democrats. Thus there is no leftward movement in this party or this country. We are a center left country and a big tent party.

"PHILADELPHIA—If the new rules of politics post-2016 were to hold up, the official launch rally Joe Biden held here on Saturday would mean that he is in trouble: The crowd wasn’t huge, was largely white and older, and, for the most part, only really got into it when he mentioned Barack Obama or Donald Trump.

Yet Biden’s high-and-getting-higher poll numbers, the early fund-raising success that has surprised even his own aides, and the enthusiastic responses I heard from supporters who came out on a hot afternoon to see him don’t show a candidate in much trouble at all. Biden’s campaign is a bet: that in the four years since Trump launched his campaign, the country hasn’t changed, the Democratic Party hasn’t changed, and politics hasn’t changed."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/05/joe-biden-rally-trump-philadelphia/589780/



Do you believe elections have been changed forever because of 2016?


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Yes, nothing will ever be the same.
4 (50%)
Some, but not substantially.
2 (25%)
No, we still win with a big tent 50 state approach
2 (25%)
I Don't want to give my opinion.
0 (0%)
Yes the party changed but not forever.
0 (0%)
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Women zipplewrath May 2019 #1
I don't see that as a shift in terms of where we need to win national elections. Demsrule86 May 2019 #6
Why? zipplewrath May 2019 #14
We already have many women in power. We are Democrats. We have 40 moderate Demsrule86 May 2019 #18
Also we have to attract voters in the same states,..we have no path without Demsrule86 May 2019 #19
"Do you believe elections have been changed forever because of 2016?" LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #2
I don't. I see the same states we need to win and the same big tent party. Demsrule86 May 2019 #5
What I meant was that I hope that the apathetic and the purists have learned their lesson LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #15
I hope so but...I hear the same crap...the all out attacks on Biden have been Demsrule86 May 2019 #16
Even if Biden wins, everything has changed. marylandblue May 2019 #3
I don't think so...won't work for anyone but him. Demsrule86 May 2019 #4
What won't work for anybody but him? marylandblue May 2019 #7
The campaign and the crazy circumstances during the campaign... Demsrule86 May 2019 #10
The Russians and the crazies aren't going away. marylandblue May 2019 #13
People are warned now and if we win, it can and will go away. Demsrule86 May 2019 #17
Yeah, the people chanting "lock them up" at rallies are going to go away. Ace Rothstein May 2019 #23
You have always had those folks...I mean the attacks on elections...you have to win to get anything Demsrule86 May 2019 #24
The first and third options are not mutually exclusive, and the second is very vague. marylandblue May 2019 #8
Sorry I can't change them now but did add a sixth option. Demsrule86 May 2019 #11
Changed significantly, but not forever. Amimnoch May 2019 #9
I added your option Demsrule86 May 2019 #12
Guess who shows up to vote? Partisan D May 2019 #20
I think so...I think Biden is the only one who has a shot. If I hear one more time Demsrule86 May 2019 #21
Actually, nothing has changed NYMinute May 2019 #22
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