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30. I want to say something about Mike, where he grew up, I hope it is informative.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:54 AM
Feb 2020

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I'm a native Coloradan and extremely proud of where and how I grew up but I've been very fortunate to live in nearly every area of the United States. Now as it happens I coincidentally live in Medford, MA exactly 2.1 miles from where Mike Bloomberg grew up and just over five miles from the headstone of my great ancestor Mary Chilton. I often wonder what she would think of the times we live in and who she might vote for. Vote? I can imagine her sitting by her small fireplace in that tiny cottage in Plimoth initially elated that eventually her daughters of the revolution could do such a thing and then quite upset that it took so long for them to have that right. Well, we weren't even a country then, they were fighting for their lives at that time, not yet for their freedoms and voting wasn't yet a thing. We were simply a remote though heavily taxed colony of England. But hope was what it was all about in those days. It is still what it is all about - freedom.

I want to tell you something about where Mike Bloomberg grew up because I happen to live here now and I don't think many people know of this place. There are a lot of native Medford folks here, people who were born and raised in the same house where they now raise their own families. There are also a lot of people who immigrated from Asia, Latin and South America, as well as Eastern, Western, and Southern Europe. My neighbor on my right makes the best Lasagna I've ever had in my life. They are wonderfully Italian! My neighbors across the street are from Mexico and we have barbecues in the summer together, they make a great skewered shrimp. My neighbors behind me are from China and they have a fantastic garden that my Italian neighbors rave about - their veggies they say are way better than from our local Wegman's. Our neighbor next door to the Italian family is from Albania and they taught me the phrase "drago mi jega vas ne prozem." Only in Medford can you hang out with the Irish on their front porch screaming about scumbags on a Saturday and then attend a wedding given all in Portuguese on Sunday at a church that hangs two flags, American and Rainbow. This is Medford today, very diverse and well integrated but when Mike lived here I have been told it was a somewhat rough neighborhood although just as filled with hope as it is today.

Medford is the fourth-oldest neighborhoood in the United States. Jingle Bells was written here (yes I know Savannah GA debates that point, coincidentally I've lived in Savannah too on Taylor St. east of Forsyth park - another wonderfully historic area of our country). Not everyone knows that just down the street from me on the Mystic River here in Medford is where many ships were built that fought for our independence. Medford is where the very first toll-bridge (recently restored, not a toll-bridge these days) was built. Medford rum is from right here folks, in fact a hundred and fifty hears ago there was a distillery where my home is now.

Listen, you can't drive half a mile here in the Northeast without seeing a dozen American flags hanging out of the windows of houses, condos and apartments. Patriotism is in the blood here and there is no question where the football team acquired their name (we root for the Packers and get some light-hearted hell for it). I regularly walk past the graves of people who died before we were a country, right here in the center of downtown Medford. Incidentally, this is just a few minutes walk from the work that is going on as we speak to restore our local library where Mike's mom spent a lot of her time. That work is being funded in part by Mike himself. I've never seen more American flags in my life than in the Northeast (or gay pride flags for that matter outside of Castro district) and we are talking every day of every week of every year. They never come down. Whether it is the fourth of July or the tenth of February, the flags fly all year round here in New England and it does go absolutely berzerk on the fourth. I've been to D.C. many times and you can feel it there too, that deep-rooted American pride, that love of independence and freedom and awe for how far we've come. But here in Medford the feeling is distinctly a-political, but very liberal, and more of a neighborhood feeling, a feeling of if we work together no matter what we look like or who we are or where we came from we can achieve anything. Just a few minutes drive from here the slogan is "Live Free or Die." Die they did, just about a million of us over the very short time we have been fighting for independence, as we still fight - don't think complacently about that. So please do live free because there was a real cost that we paid in lives and future generations to get to where we are today.

Mike Bloomberg is not a billionaire because someone gave it to him or because he's a tyrant or because he is an oligarch or because he is some kind of king sitting on a throne on the other side of some vast ocean. He is none of those things. He is a son of Medford, a son of America. He's a billionaire because our country supports innovation, ideas, and success in a way that no other country can understand. He is the hope that makes people fly from Guam with their daughters in the hope of opening a restaurant here in America, but more importantly the hope of providing their children with great educations and an unbounded future. He's a billionaire because that's what America is, we are the land of hope and of freedom. We recognize that to build great things you have to offer great hope. Mary Chilton had to have that hope to get aboard that wooden ship and come here from across a vast ocean where more than half of a colony could perish in a single harsh noreaster. I'm a libertarian and I've switched parties to democrat because I'll be voting in the primaries here in downtown Medford for a son of Medford and a son of America. Think what you want about him, it is a free country, but I can tell you I know where he grew up, the values he has, and I know that the patriotism that runs through his veins is the same patriotism upon which this country was founded.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
DU Poll: Bloomberg or Sanders? [View all] thesquanderer Feb 2020 OP
I would have to let said recipe simmer. dchill Feb 2020 #1
bernie is fair on policy but zero on person, bloomberg is repub lite but better on person nt msongs Feb 2020 #2
Progressive taxation, reproductive rights, gun control, environmental protection... brooklynite Feb 2020 #21
Republican lite means not a socialist. comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #62
DEMOCRATIC Socialist... brooklynite Feb 2020 #63
I'm pretty sure I know what a social democrat is but I am not so comradebillyboy Feb 2020 #64
He's pretty liberal for a former Republican. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #27
So, death by spoon or fork question, eh? nt Quackers Feb 2020 #3
Neither of them! (I voted other.) n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2020 #4
Last Sunday's poll, with about 400 responses: highplainsdem Feb 2020 #5
Oh wow.. I did vote in that poll.. Thanks Cha Feb 2020 #12
Ah, I'd missed that. Though it seems more conceivable this week than last! n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #31
Yes, it does. And Sanders is doing better in this poll because, judging by comments I saw, some highplainsdem Feb 2020 #40
Bloomberg in a heartbeat. tritsofme Feb 2020 #6
I find this opinion article on Bloomberg concerning - does he like the dictators? womanofthehills Feb 2020 #67
Ask yourself a question. Which of these 2 candidates would democratisphere Feb 2020 #7
re:"Ask yourself which of these 2 candidates would appeal to the greatest number of eligible voters? thesquanderer Feb 2020 #66
He definitely won't be appealing to any younger voters womanofthehills Feb 2020 #69
Sanders. Bloomberg used to be a zentrum Feb 2020 #8
You really should learn more about Bloomberg, since you don't understand his political highplainsdem Feb 2020 #11
Might as well draft Romney MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #13
re: "wouldn't it be great to do so as enthusiastically as we did for Barack Obama?" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #32
So much truth, so little appreciation for it Doremus Feb 2020 #42
+1. JudyM Feb 2020 #75
Didn't Warren "used to be a Republican"? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2020 #23
Much longer ago, and never actively working to defeat Dems, AFAIK, so... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #35
Well alrighty then.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2020 #43
I never set any goal posts here, so I couldn't have moved them. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #60
lol Elizabeth Warren used to be a Republican ! stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #51
So was Warren. And it was political. He had the best chance too win this Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #53
So, Bloomberg was originally a Dem and switched to being a Republican in 2001 womanofthehills Feb 2020 #68
So much Bernie hate on this forum. OliverQ Feb 2020 #9
where? I dont think he is fit to be a president but that dont mean I hate him nt msongs Feb 2020 #10
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #15
Not wanting him to be the nominee isn't the same thing as hate. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #50
He earned it. He should have been there for Clinton during the general in 16. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #55
you get a heart !!!!!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2020 #14
:-) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #36
God, that's just depressing enough that it probably will be the final choice Recursion Feb 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Feb 2020 #17
I migrated to Klobuchar over the past week or so without really noticing Recursion Feb 2020 #18
No MFM008 Feb 2020 #19
Which one is the Socialist? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #20
Ugh. Codeine Feb 2020 #22
Bloomberg because he'll beat Trump gollygee Feb 2020 #24
I think Bloomberg's biggest advantage is cash, but since he's promised... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #37
Considering Bloomberg HockeyMom Feb 2020 #25
Bloomberg's more likely to beat Trump than Sanders. Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good. chia Feb 2020 #26
I'm not sure who's stronger against Trump, especially if we have Bloomberg's money either way. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #65
Very curious to see how it goes here in California too! chia Feb 2020 #70
Bernie... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #28
Bloomberg is my absolute last choice Amishman Feb 2020 #29
I want to say something about Mike, where he grew up, I hope it is informative. clippership Feb 2020 #30
... Fix The Stupid Feb 2020 #34
I also find the poll humorous as hell. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #44
no question Nikki28 Feb 2020 #33
Sanders is un electable Gothmog Feb 2020 #38
So was Trump. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #74
Socialism will kill both sanders and down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #76
Most of the people in the poll who say they would never vote for a socialist... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #78
trump reall wants to run against a weak and unelectable candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #81
Never Bloomberg for me n/t Devil Child Feb 2020 #39
But Gabbard's ok? Squinch Feb 2020 #79
Hell yeah! Devil Child Feb 2020 #80
Unless it's Sanders v Gabbard... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #41
I'd have to wait for a debate before deciding. musicblind Feb 2020 #45
Poll: Americans Won't Vote for a Socialist Gothmog Feb 2020 #46
Read the fine print. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #47
socialism" is a red flag for Republicans and Republican-leaners Gothmog Feb 2020 #49
Here we are, 2 polls, 500? responses, over 5000 views. Somehow . . . ? empedocles Feb 2020 #52
Ok, but a Sanders candidacy would not be designed to appeal to... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #58
That actually makes it worse. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #56
re: "The fact that 24% of Democrats wouldn't consider voting for a socialist is not good" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #59
Any other year, Sanders. This year, Bloomberg Azathoth Feb 2020 #48
Not surprised by this at all. honest.abe Feb 2020 #54
Bloomberg Movbez4 Feb 2020 #57
K & R Duppers Feb 2020 #61
The winner. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2020 #71
I don't think that DU is representative of the Democratic Party. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #72
LOL PDittie Feb 2020 #83
Yea, I guess that's pretty obvious but I felt like mentioning it anyway. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #84
Not a fan of Bloomberg, but.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #73
I'm guessing the residual dislike of what Sanders did to the Party in 2016 stopbush Feb 2020 #77
I think so to. Kaleva Feb 2020 #82
I would simply abstain from voting in the primary and vote for whoever the nominee was in November. Midwestern Democrat Feb 2020 #85
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