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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: DU Poll: Bloomberg or Sanders? [View all]thesquanderer
(12,000 posts)58. Ok, but a Sanders candidacy would not be designed to appeal to...
..."Republicans and Republican-leaners."
I wrote about this in my post in the thread at https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287486770
The OP had quoted from an article that said:
Ideologues are elected more often than they used to be. Outsiders are elected more often, too. And the percentage of true swing voters is shrinking, Utych said. So does that mean someone like Sanders is more electable and someone like former Vice President Joe Biden is less electable? Electability here becomes a game of divining which group is more important to winning swing voters or the partisan base. But thats no more accurate than trying to estimate how sexist your neighbors are. Which segment is bigger
theres not great information on that, Utych said. Anything you say is just guessing.
And in my agreement, I expanded on it this way:
We really don't know which group gets us more votes. Biden and Sanders (as our two extremes) would both get the vote of virtually every true Dem (certainly when the alternative is Trump). But beyond that, what gets us more votes... appealing to the moderate middle and "reasonable" Republicans? or appealing to the more extreme left partisans and the anti-establishment outsiders who want to shake things up? In 2016, we attempted to appeal to the moderate middle, while Trump went for the highly partisan and anti-establishment group. We lost that one. Something to think about.
The point is, if we end up with Sanders, that means we're going with approach B, and so appealing to Republicans or Republican-leaning independents will not be our strategy.
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bernie is fair on policy but zero on person, bloomberg is repub lite but better on person nt
msongs
Feb 2020
#2
Progressive taxation, reproductive rights, gun control, environmental protection...
brooklynite
Feb 2020
#21
Ah, I'd missed that. Though it seems more conceivable this week than last! n/t
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#31
Yes, it does. And Sanders is doing better in this poll because, judging by comments I saw, some
highplainsdem
Feb 2020
#40
I find this opinion article on Bloomberg concerning - does he like the dictators?
womanofthehills
Feb 2020
#67
re:"Ask yourself which of these 2 candidates would appeal to the greatest number of eligible voters?
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#66
You really should learn more about Bloomberg, since you don't understand his political
highplainsdem
Feb 2020
#11
re: "wouldn't it be great to do so as enthusiastically as we did for Barack Obama?"
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#32
So, Bloomberg was originally a Dem and switched to being a Republican in 2001
womanofthehills
Feb 2020
#68
where? I dont think he is fit to be a president but that dont mean I hate him nt
msongs
Feb 2020
#10
He earned it. He should have been there for Clinton during the general in 16.
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#55
I think Bloomberg's biggest advantage is cash, but since he's promised...
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#37
Bloomberg's more likely to beat Trump than Sanders. Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
chia
Feb 2020
#26
I'm not sure who's stronger against Trump, especially if we have Bloomberg's money either way.
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#65
I want to say something about Mike, where he grew up, I hope it is informative.
clippership
Feb 2020
#30
Most of the people in the poll who say they would never vote for a socialist...
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#78
re: "The fact that 24% of Democrats wouldn't consider voting for a socialist is not good"
thesquanderer
Feb 2020
#59
Yea, I guess that's pretty obvious but I felt like mentioning it anyway. n/t
totodeinhere
Feb 2020
#84
I would simply abstain from voting in the primary and vote for whoever the nominee was in November.
Midwestern Democrat
Feb 2020
#85