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Gothmog

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24. trump would destroy a weak candidate like sanders in the general
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:37 PM
Feb 2020

I am very worried about down ballot races. sanders is a very weak candidate and would be easy for trump to destroy. In addition to the well written 101 page memorandum with oppo on sanders with a 1000 pages of backup from the Clinton campaign trump has his own oppo file on sanders that would destroy such a weak and divisive candidate like sanders.




trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

They ignored the fact that Sanders had not yet faced a real campaign against him. Clinton was in the delicate position of dealing with a large portion of voters who treated Sanders more like the Messiah than just another candidate. She was playing the long game—attacking Sanders strongly enough to win, but gently enough to avoid alienating his supporters. Given her overwhelming support from communities of color—for example, about 70 percent of African-American voters cast their ballot for her—Clinton had a firewall that would be difficult for Sanders to breach....

So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....

The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I don’t know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.

sanders was such a weak primary candidate that the Clinton campaign did not use its oppo but trump would have fun destroying such a weak candidate like sanders

I will vote for the nominee of the party but I fear that the nomination of sanders will lead to a Speaker Kevin McCarthy
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
#2: If his odds were 'substantially better' of defeating Trump. nt Mike 03 Feb 2020 #1
It's unlikely that he'd ever have a significant lead over the others vs. Trump. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #2
If it comes down to Sanders vs. Bloomberg, I could see Sanders doing much better... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #10
I think the opposite would happen. Those people would be much more likely to go with Bloomberg. Squinch Feb 2020 #30
Why? He didn't get them as mayor of NYC. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #35
No, look at Sanders and the union in Nevada...he will not do well. The GOP will destroy him Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #33
I will vote for the nominee Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #3
Same rockfordfile Feb 2020 #7
False premise...Sanders will not win a general regardless of any poll...and as the oppo Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #4
So your answer would be #4, you wouldn't vote for Sanders, and don't trust polls that say he'd win. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #11
It is hard to do a poll ...my point is that it is not the polls that are unreliable but the fact of Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #18
I believe Sanders will lose to Trump Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #5
Not in the primary. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #6
The polls on RCP/538 showing margins asking 'Who do YOU think has the best chance..." floppyboo Feb 2020 #8
First of all Biden is not a centrist...secondly...there has never been a left candidate elected Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #19
re: "there has never been a left candidate elected president...we lost everytime" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #22
The point is it has never happened. And I consider the Dukakis massacre to be an attempt as well. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #32
It would be really interesting if we didn't have a nominee by the time it gets to DC IronLionZion Feb 2020 #9
Other. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #12
Since I beleive any of our candidates will beat Trump if in different ways judeling Feb 2020 #13
I will stick with my favorite until the nominee is declared. Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #14
I'll vote for the nominee. If that's Sanders, I'll hold my nose and vote for him, highplainsdem Feb 2020 #15
+1. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #17
Trump has bragged that Republicans will change parties to vote for the weakest Democrat Clash City Rocker Feb 2020 #16
That's occurred to me, too, that some of Sanders' "support" in polls is from lying Republicans. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #20
I'm not buying into polls this time around jmowreader Feb 2020 #21
if IF he is the nominee. if YOU DONOT VOTEFOR HIM YPU ARAE VOTING FOE TRUMP. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #23
trump would destroy a weak candidate like sanders in the general Gothmog Feb 2020 #24
There is no circumstance in which Codeine Feb 2020 #25
Sanders doing well in polls against Trump now doesn't mean much to me gollygee Feb 2020 #26
We have to consider that polls may be hacked. MH1 Feb 2020 #27
I feel like he did not support Clinton enough in 2016. whttevrr Feb 2020 #28
"Voting your beliefs is more important" than beating Trump?? Beartracks Feb 2020 #29
Polls indicating Sanders beating Trump in the GE is a psyop. underthematrix Feb 2020 #31
If he wins the primary, then I'd switch woodsprite Feb 2020 #34
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