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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:13 PM Original message |
Is Howard Dean the Crypto-Republican Candidate? |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. So later in the campaign when Kerry or any other Dem |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. What attack? |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
58. "The author makes his case based on the facts" |
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jfkennedy (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. No way will I vote for Dean |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
123. Do you realize what you just said? |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:24 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. The Dogma Trap |
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IranianDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. I can't believe this is coming from a Kerry supporter... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. You used to support Kerry, if memory serves. |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Good Gawd, now you're using Smirk's talking points!!! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Hindsight is 20/20. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. Convert? |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. More poppycock from Dean bashers |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Kerry would clobber Bush. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
91. Good for Kerry. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 02:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
140. Your list looks like a resume and if a resume was all a candidate |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. So objective |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Ayup |
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roughsatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. Hey Pastiche423, where is the Jefferson quote from? |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. Although the quote |
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roughsatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. In other words it looks like a false quote |
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roughsatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm not reading anymore anti-Dean articles |
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sugarcookie (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. I'm with you... |
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T Roosevelt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Why is it the Kerry people coming up with this s^%$? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
84. Many of my DU Friends are Dean supporters. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
7. oooh, oooh |
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tedoll78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. Wow.. you totally changed my mind about Howard Dean. |
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CMT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. Dean is a traditional Democrat in the Clintonian mold |
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ConservativeDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. The far left is saying he's a crypto-Republican? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. Excellent point. |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Dude, get your head out of the sand. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
132. A vote for war loses my vote every time.... |
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donotpassgo (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. I wish the Anti-Dean people could pick a stance already. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. Amen! |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
127. His stances on different issues... |
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molly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. If he was from a born and bred extremely wealthly pug family |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. "why and when did he decide to be a DEM?" |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. When did Dean decide not to take the "path of least resistance"? |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
49. Maybe for the same reasons I did? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
71. When he was an intern working in a NYC clinic. |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. Yes, I see it clearly now. |
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Sean Reynolds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Don't forget very pro-gay. |
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BansheeBarbie (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
73. Dean Is PRO ENVIRONMENT??? |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:13 PM Original message |
Environment... |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
15. No. |
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Philosophy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
16. Dean will get the best TV ratings |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
18. i have always feared the man that "they "give the most air time and ... |
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CMT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. the problem is that the media has to respond to the Dean phenonenon |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. They created the phenomenon by focusing |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. I think the actual "phenomenon" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. This was BEFORE the meet ups. |
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FubarFly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
96. Hi, I'm Howard Dean and I represent. the Democratic wing... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
116. so how far back are you claiming |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
93. "amazing fundraising success of the innovative methods" of Dean campaign |
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Clete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. If you want your candidate to have any credibility, |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Gee. About 80-percent of my posts have clobbered BFEE. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You know Octa I do prefer Kerry to Dean |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. i also perfer kerry to dean...GMTA |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I would too but I will be too young |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. That's your opinion |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. Yes, my opinion — an INFORMED opinion. |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. sorry... but you need to check this out |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
85. I stand corrected! Thanks for the link! |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Earth to Octafish! How about a fact check? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
87. Sorry if the numbers don't agree with me. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
109. Ask married people what they worry most about? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:33 PM Response to Reply #109 |
128. Yours is a most practical perspective. Congratulations. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:16 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Woah, back off mister. Rich draft dodgers? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:35 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. You're right. That's another similarity between Dean and Bush. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Hi Octafish! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Hi, Not-So-Old! |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Hard to believe you when you say that you'll back Dean. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. What effort to attack? Do you want me to expend some effort? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 02:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
141. Yeah, sure! Kerry had a lot of "backbone" when he voted for the war! |
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tsipple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. Answer: No. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
27. lame as most attacks are |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
119. Excellent point, deseo. The media are not some monolith. |
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tsipple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
29. One More Thing: How Do We Know You Support Kerry? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. You think pointing out Dean's faults makes me anti-Kerry? |
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tsipple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
90. Uh, yeah, of course... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:22 PM Response to Reply #90 |
110. Uh. Great. |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
33. That site is full of utter crap. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
68. Dean said he quit drinking because he once drank too much. |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. Oh yeah |
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jfkennedy (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
36. Dean is not a liberal or a progressive he is a Republican Democrat |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Are you still here? |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Bingo! |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. did not know that |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Was he talking about the Palestian situation? |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. He initially had a quote from this laughable site. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. oh heh thats ironic |
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jfkennedy (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Why are you pro Dean? |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
76. Man, there are so many errors in your post, where to begin... |
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jfkennedy (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
94. Perhaps |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
72. Welcome JFK |
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Vadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
98. I am curious about the explanations for edits... |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:53 PM Response to Reply #98 |
117. Edits |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
52. Soon we will have to look forward to another whine about |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
101. Next up: |
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sugarcookie (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. If you are trying to |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
111. Thanks, sugarcookie! You make a good point... |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:04 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. Don't forget yourself. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:18 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Takes one to know one, eh ibegurpard? |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:26 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. What's actually interesting... |
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sugarcookie (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:14 PM Response to Reply #111 |
121. It is not the negative |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
57. This is a pretty good article.. |
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tedoll78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. YES! |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
61. Of course. Just ask Crypto-Democrat Joe Lieberman. |
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donotpassgo (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
69. This Dean bashing is no good for Democrats. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. A hearty welcome to DU, donotpassgo! |
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donotpassgo (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. sure they would vote for Dean... |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
78. Ya'll crack me up |
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JustJoe (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
79. Could this be REVERSE-reverse-psychology? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
103. LOL! Thanks, JustJoe! |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
80. Oh look, another dean-bashing thread |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:30 PM Response to Reply #80 |
113. Gee. What a surprise. Deanies can't handle the truth? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
83. "Duers need to hear the truth" - that's the first lie in your thread! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. Right you are. Livergood's pro-Kerry. With good reason. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 11:04 PM Response to Reply #95 |
138. Norman Livergood is the publisher of Hermes Press! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:54 PM Response to Reply #83 |
102. Actually, IG...I read some old posts of yours |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:56 PM Response to Reply #102 |
137. It's the war, stupid! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
88. Another chronic Dean-basher |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:38 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. Ignore this at your peril. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:48 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. which is really what this whole thread was about |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:00 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. Wrong. I posted the article so people could read it. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:28 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. "Wrong. I posted the article so people could read it." |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:35 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. He spells his last name KERREY. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:01 PM Response to Reply #106 |
129. psssssst from an undecided |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:23 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. Understood and appreciated. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 11:45 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Thanks for hearing |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
126. Just to get you straight |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:05 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. No. He's unelectable because he's a poser. |
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jfkennedy (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
89. Think about it |
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FubarFly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
92. Hey, thanks for putting all of the unsubstantiated Dean-bashing... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:48 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. You're welcome! Here's some more ... |
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FubarFly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:59 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Keep it coming... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Glad to be of help. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
104. Posts like this one nearly make me lump Kerry with Lieberman |
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poskonig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
108. Let's ask the Republicans about this: |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:32 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Don't be silly...he's really a republican |
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Bravo (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
120. Deano |
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hedgetrimmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:23 PM Response to Reply #120 |
134. wow, what insight.... that formula can fit any candidate... |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
130. Let's get this straight...first he was wayyyyyy radical, now he's too |
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