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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:43 PM Original message |
Is Clark to the left of Dean? |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes he is. Nobody ever realized it. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Depends on the issue doesn't it? |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm talking this century, not previous century |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Oh, I'm talking "the proof is in the pudding" type stuff. |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yep. All of them together would've made the perfect candidate. |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
47. Yeah, Clark voted for Nixon, too |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:52 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Thanks for the info on Nixon. I guess McGovern is just drawn to a uniform |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
140. Or maybe McGovern is drawn to |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #140 |
162. Well he couldn't win the primaries so I think that's an iffy guess. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
157. So how do you know who Dean voted for in 1972? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #157 |
165. Yes he has said. He was working on camaigns in that era. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #157 |
179. I don't want to fight the primaries all over again because I like DEAN... |
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newsguyatl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #179 |
186. wyldwolf, you don't want to start this, trust me |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. hey, newsguyatl... no lamer than anything being posted about Clark... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:37 AM Response to Reply #189 |
229. Yes, you do indeed. It is your greatest joy. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:19 AM Response to Reply #229 |
235. oh, here we go again. |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #157 |
187. I think in his book he talks about it |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
176. I'll let Michael Moore respond to you,mzmolly... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #176 |
201. I'll let Mike answer Mike as well. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
182. More from Moore.... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #182 |
197. I don't disagree with your point. I just don't like the X is to the left |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, General Clark did not flinch from the Liberal label, he embraced it. |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hey that's funny! I just read the article and Moore says the same |
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manhattanite (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
7. Wesley Clark is an opportunist ... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Manhattanite, you are a year late and a dollar short. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Funny, since Clark never once called that Fascist. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
62. How many times are we going to keep hearing Rove's scripts here? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
169. yawn. n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
180. WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think Clark was the most left of all the Dem candidates |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Kucinich, then Edwards, except on the War, was the most left, IMO. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. He didn't say outsourcing is OK |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:33 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I actually saw an extended version, not from a debate, |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. His positions were evolving |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:01 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. For what it's worth |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:08 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. for whatever it's worth.... |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:17 AM Response to Reply #44 |
231. Reasons for forsight/hindsight concusions |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. Dean said all along he was a centrist, he didn't "play" anything. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
150. You're absolutely right except you forgot Sharpton |
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kk897 (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
173. I'd be interested to hear how this is so... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 05:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
234. He didn't advocate universal health care-- |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. Probably. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
12. No one knows. |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
13. Don't know why, but I like Clark. |
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kk897 (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
175. Plus, the guy has TV experience (was a commentator) |
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Willy Wonka (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
14. Actually.. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. You're late to the party. |
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Willy Wonka (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Excuse me? |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. When it matters I am ready for you |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
61. I would suggest that you not assume that everyone who disagrees |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
48. If you are wise you'll listen to me... |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
15. He is to the left of Dean.Dean is admittedly a conservative on many issues |
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kk897 (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
178. Clark and DU (not you, the other kind!) |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
16. At this point I am reluctant to narrow the focus in that specific way |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
17. Clark, an admitted liberal, was always to the left of Dean |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Not quite true. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Dean was BEST on Women's issues |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
18. What does to the left mean? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
21. You know, if you don't want infighting and more Clark/Dean stuff.. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. You know I agree with much of your sentiments (see my post #16) |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Interesting you interpret this as "pitting Clark against Dean" |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. It wasn't the question exactly that does the "pitting" |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
127. Thanks for being your good and rational self, Tom. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
211. You are one of the more rational ones. |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. I posted this because I thought it was interesting and thought-provoking |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
65. If I can't stand the politics....stay out of the forum? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
133. No, you didn't. n/t |
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manhattanite (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
22. The Real Reason Michael Moore "Likes" Clark |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Yeah, right. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. Manhattanite.... |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
119. I'l frame this one to post next to your future inane statements |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
181. It's Neal Boortz! |
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gottaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
29. Yes |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. really and how is that? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Glad you asked.... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. this is not useful information |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
32. Another reason I posted this... |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I'll stop after this post, promise |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
39. Clark is neither liberal or conservative |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:51 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I agree that Clark defies labels just like Dean.... |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:16 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Yes |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
60. Deleted message |
Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Do you still think Clinton is going to leave Hillary so that he and the |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
121. Glad you're still proud of lording over others' sex life. have you met |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #121 |
141. Aren't you the one who keeps posting to me about Clinton's penis? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #141 |
160. Only to make YOU happy my dear. You and freepers. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #160 |
171. Yes I can see how happy you are |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
64. labels are meaningless |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. exactly....... like I said talk is cheap |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
101. "When he has held office and made policy decisions we will know" |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:09 AM Response to Original message |
41. So far - he's my guy |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
49. Since Clark was supported by the NDN..... |
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bettys boy (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:38 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Clark was in the race... |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:51 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Ah. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #51 |
71. Clark was in the race to stop Dean |
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vikegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #71 |
90. "Clark was in the race to stop Dean.... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. on Charley Rose |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:29 AM Response to Reply #96 |
236. interesting... |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #71 |
112. You can't be more wrong that |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #112 |
137. nope sorry |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #137 |
147. Yes, Clark has many, many friends in the Democratic party |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
120. Dean stopped himself just fine |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #120 |
142. nope |
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bettys boy (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
237. "No guarantee he'd govern as a liberal" |
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bettys boy (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
50. Reframing, revitalizing liberalism |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
54. This article is from LAST YEAR, we discussed it then, and I fail to see |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
55. Yes he is. |
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banjoman (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
57. wes clark |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
59. Yes he is. And calls himself a liberal too. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
63. Yes |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
66. I don't think so... |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
83. Oh, here we go again ... |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
138. You can tell they 'hate' each other. |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. You're evading the point and you know it. |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #145 |
152. Not evading at all. You buy the Clark story. I don't. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #152 |
159. You peddle Whitewater and are here exclusively to attack |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
125. Trade hats? or trade rocket barrages? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
136. Arkansas Project ready with the Young Republicans questions |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. I don't have any questions. I know all I'll ever need to know |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #139 |
148. Like I said ... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #139 |
177. You should know better. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #139 |
183. I have a question: whom/what do you support? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
70. I thought no one was to the left of Dean. He was our SAVIOR from the |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. We don't like Dean for being ultra-liberal, because he isn't. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. We need someone who will stand up for liberal values. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Liberal, yes. Not ultra-liberal. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Don't we want an ultr-liberal who will fight for liberal values? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. No. nt |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Whats your definitions of liberal and ultra-liberal |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
111. Dean is liberal but not ultra liberal just because. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #70 |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I figured the Dean interns here might be able to help me. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. unless you haven't been noticing |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Really, show me a post where someone says they're leaving if |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. LOL show me a post where someone says they WANT Clark to become |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Thank you for supporting my point. Now back to the Dean interns.... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. There are no Dean interns |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Uh-huh. So they're full blown employees. Lets not split hairs here. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I think you know better than I do |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. That applies in so many areas. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Nope, just that one area concerning the DLC |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Clark is not in the running for DNC chair |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Clarks not running for president either. So what IS your point? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. See, now, I HAVE seen those posts. They're all over the place, in fact. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:59 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Deleted message |
Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Yeah, all that means is that he has a lot more interns. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. So Dean does have interns. You better tell Ches, she says there aren't |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Well, apparently, not as many as Clark. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. What PR shop? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Deleted message |
greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Are you saying Ches makes stuff up? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Ridiculous. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Aww come back. I'm sure you had a point. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Prove to me there are DLC interns here. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. why do you always run to attack him |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. I don't worship him, and that is perceived as an attack. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #114 |
128. you imagine people are riled |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. So Dean supporters like moderates. Is Dean a moderate? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. ? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:09 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Here let me help you. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #105 |
117. LOL, I think you need to get to the store |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Why |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
72. I dunno, does Clark have a domestic policy? I mean, other than |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. You mean like your candidate signed into law in his state? yeah, a few: |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I'll take a link to that outlawing of flagburning in Vermont, thanks. nt |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
93. Well in reading all these posts it certainly hasn't been enlightening |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
116. Why the attempt to revisit the primaries? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. The primaries are over? |
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newsguyatl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
118. clark is wherever is good for him at the time |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Clark has been consistent throughout. Unlike candidates finding |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. LOL, he would have been a republican if Rove had returned his calls |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Doing lots of laughing today. Must be the holiday season. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. You and manhatanite post the same stuff, same words (#7)Waiting for your |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #135 |
143. Clark said it |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. Gore said his mother sang him the Union song as a lullabye. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #146 |
153. Who is |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #146 |
184. Perfect comparison |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #184 |
190. Berke the jerke |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:54 AM Response to Reply #190 |
216. I think it's sick, frankly. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:32 AM Response to Reply #184 |
207. But Sparkly, what was the Union Lullabye, and why was it |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #118 |
134. Clark is always where it will do some good for someone... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
126. Here's a thought |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. The funniest part about it is that nobody's running in any |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #126 |
144. really |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. My dog's not going to disappear! He'll still be here. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
151. Is Lieberman to the left of Dean? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #151 |
163. Is Lieberman to the left of Kucinich? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:46 PM Response to Reply #163 |
194. Good change of subject. We can take it that direction |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. Lets make a similar statement comparing Dennis Kucinich and George Bush. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #195 |
198. That was really pathetic |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:13 AM Response to Reply #198 |
203. Oh my, two whole years! |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:44 AM Response to Reply #203 |
210. 100% rating from NARAL in 2003 for Kucinich |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:06 AM Response to Reply #210 |
219. I used to like Kooch. I don't anymore. He was anti-women's |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #151 |
172. Is DK to the right of Dean |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #172 |
185. Adult white male Radical Activist? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #172 |
193. No, he didn't spend his career voting against women's rights |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:56 PM Response to Reply #193 |
196. Actually, it seems he supported overturning Roe v. Wade. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #196 |
199. Appealing Roe v. Wade |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #199 |
202. Roe V. Wade is about choice, Kucinich believes that |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:25 AM Response to Reply #193 |
206. Please don't bring Kucinich into this, if even to react. n/t |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
154. Dean was never that far to the left. most people never understood this. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. But here's the problem. |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. point taken, but in a relative sense Dean was to the right of everyone |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. How so? He is a fiscal conservative, true, but what other |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #158 |
167. I was referring to the primary candidates. Also my point is not to suggest |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. But the party establishment defined him as liberal... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #167 |
200. So your really can't answer my question--or won't. |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:36 AM Response to Reply #200 |
208. Won't. Just didn't think I had to explain Dean's record to a Dean |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #208 |
212. Deleted message |
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215. Deleted message |
janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:57 AM Response to Reply #215 |
217. No. I don't insult people. I just ask for the reasoning behind their |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:11 AM Response to Reply #217 |
221. You just called me a liar and I'm attacking you? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #215 |
224. Janx has never been insulting. |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:23 AM Response to Reply #224 |
226. She just did. Called me a liar and said it was insulting her positions |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:30 AM Response to Reply #226 |
227. We know about his record in every aspect. |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:36 AM Response to Reply #227 |
228. I said two things. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:40 AM Response to Reply #228 |
230. You make it sound as though we are not aware. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #156 |
161. Then why did Clinton make those calls? If Dean was so to the right..... |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. I'm not so sure Clinton was operating on a right/left scale. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. I disagree. Electability was not given a chance. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:23 AM Response to Reply #168 |
205. I've talked to a lot of Republicans who like Dean. |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:40 AM Response to Reply #205 |
209. That really has nothing to do with right or left though does it. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:08 AM Response to Reply #209 |
220. Actually, yes, it does. n/t |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 05:03 AM Response to Reply #209 |
232. No, it has to do with standing up for what's right when you're |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #205 |
222. There are people on both sides who are not bullshitters. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 05:04 AM Response to Reply #222 |
233. Yes, and that's why the Republicans are winning. nt |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #168 |
213. I am not suggesting that having a military background is equal to |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #156 |
218. ONE MORE TIME: |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #218 |
223. I didn't say everyone. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #154 |
164. It depends on the issue. Kucinich is anti-choice, Edwards is pro-patriot |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
174. Not started by us, but many posts say we need to get out of the primaries. |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
188. Are both of them thinking of Running in '08? |
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twenty2strings (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
191. Wish we had them both...NT |
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outraged2 (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
192. yes |
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Obviousman (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
204. I would have loved to see a NH showdown |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:51 AM Response to Reply #204 |
214. That was not allowed. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #204 |
225. It was all taken care of beforehand. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
238. Who cares? |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:29 AM Response to Reply #238 |
239. Thank you. Both are good men and stand up guys. |
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