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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:13 PM Original message |
McGovern Set to Endorse Clinton: "Never forgot" her work on his 1972 White House bid |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. But she's a warmonger!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nooo ooooo oooooo@! |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. From the article -- |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Oh, that damn "loyality" thing.. |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wow, I am so disappointed |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. What part of the castrated Kyl-Lieberman resolution |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. What part of ... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. So you have nothing. |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. No, I've actually read/followed the proceedings |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I read it already |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Let's start with .... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Just as I suspected. |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Sorry, I'll trust the official record vs TPM |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Winnahhh! |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. No, you win.... |
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Zandor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
66. Give it up, dude |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 05:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
46. It parallels the language in the Iraq declaration but does not |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
96. Maybe because its not |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 03:36 AM Response to Reply #96 |
107. Have you read the pre-Iraq War authorization bill. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Don't bother arguing with him. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Note that the poster I was discussing this with is unaware |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 05:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
45. Edwards' response on this was excellent. |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. i know you're not asking me, but....all of it |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. The testimony regarding Iran's involvement |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
102. declaring the largest part of the Iranian army terrorists? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. No not really. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. so political backslapping matters more than ideals with mcGovern |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. It kind of defeats the power of a personal endorsement |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
100. No, I think McGovern wanted to say something about the Clintons' |
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Captain_Nemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. He is right. Her work goes back to Watergate and she has the guts and power to win. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. There is no human being in the whole world I admire more than George McGovern |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
34. I worked for McGovern too |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #34 |
58. If you look at Sen. McGovern's over all political history...he has always |
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cyclezealot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
103. McGovern showed his ability to work with others based |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. That's a shock. And a disappointment. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. In some ways, i understand... politicians are loyal to people who supported them. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. This is the kind of bs |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. yeah, edwardsobamba and hillary are pretty close in their views on foreign policy |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I guess I can't continue to debate you, lol. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
18. she is a mighty different person now. I think nixon would endorse her now. |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
19. Nooooooooo! |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
24. Good. Thanks for posting. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
27. He's still alive??? It was so very loooooooong ago..... |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. Typical |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
56. Respect your elders |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
32. I am saddened to realize the first candidate I supported has gone senile. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 12:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. That is a truly nasty comment |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:12 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. McGovern was my first passion as a candidate.Hillary is so completely NOT the person McGovern |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. If you'd read "Living History" |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I actually couldn't get through it.I found it too boring. Should I try again? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Just curious |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. God, its been so long since I read it and it was something like800 pages as I recall. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. You expected better? n/t |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. It was not nasty.it was sincere. I do wonder what prompted this from a man |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 06:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. The answer is simple |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #49 |
74. No, we know all about the DLC game plans and that HRC is one of the top leaders. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #74 |
93. Its just so common |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
79. If you don't think calling a well respected man "senile" |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #79 |
98. Well respected men DO go senile, sometimes. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Unless there's medical evidence stating |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
101. Bottom line----McGovern believes Hillary's best for America.(eom) |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
38. I have a great deal of respect for McGovern. He wisely endorsed Clark in 04'. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. They broke the mold |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
44. watching some of the DU meltdowns is funny. |
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Zandor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Wait until Gore endorse Hillary |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
77. It's down right hilarious! |
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democratsin08 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
47. this is great |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
48. I love George McGovern |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
50. kick |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
53. Stand back for the McGovern insults now. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. They've already started. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. ...and one minute later... post #55... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Oh yes, we've memorized the meme - anyone who DARE dislike The Saints Billary are freepers. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I heard your cognative disconnect can be treated. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. It's much harder to treat unbridled arrogance and a craven need for power and control. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. So I guess you've got to live with it. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Talk about hypocrite?!? - you've trashed "all things McGovern" until this point. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. So you have ADD, too? Staying on topic is difficult for you. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. No, I'm on topic. But it is truly bizarre that you'd use ANYTHING to win. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. no, you've jumped from topic to topic |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Whatever makes you feel superior. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. should I list them for you? |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #69 |
94. Craven |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Yeah calling McGovern senile is soooooo progressive. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. It's true, and I'm a LIBERAL not a progressive. It saddens me but he must be senile |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
83. I'd never call anyone a freeper |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #59 |
73. I take it that you have changed your mind about George McGovern? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Have I ever called him senile? |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. calling him senile is nasty? just as nasty as using the term "McGovernite fringies" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Did I say that? And why did you completely ignore what I said? |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. yes you did. I don't think I ignored anything you said. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Show me, then. And yes you did "avoid" my reply |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. well , to be fair, it was a long time ago. To be exact it was on April 4, 2006 |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
55. That's just FUCKING SAD! I fear George McGovern is getting senile. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Nice! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Again, it's always a bright spot to my day when you choose to pop up. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Back at ya! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Awe, the way you treat me is IMO, in line with the person you're shamelessly promoting. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Debby Boone? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. You're predictable - I'll give you that. nt |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
76. I like George and have seen him several times. Does he know Clinton's votes on the war? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. "Does he know Clinton's votes on the war?" Did you read the OP, HB? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
105. I doubt his tepid endorsement is going to sway any people against the war |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
86. I sense 'progressive' heads beginning to explode!!!...nt |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
89. just goes to show how pervasive the corporatization of American government . . . |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
91. ABC's The Note: For the record, George McGovern went with Wes Clark in 2004 |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Yes, I remember that well |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-28-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
97. So that makes two good points for Hillary. |
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