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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:39 PM Original message |
Can anyone provide evidence showing Hillary will drive up GOP turnout? |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. The only thing that would drive GOP turnout |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. LOL |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Sounds like Fred Thompson didn't do it for ya. nt |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I know some GOP women who would vote for Hillary. |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 05:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I know 6 white male republicans who are voting for her in the General Election. |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. No. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Common Sense! |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. i can make up fake polls from non existent think tanks and political web sites though. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. I know, I hear it all the time too, but only from the talking heads! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. Maybe that she isn't leading among the candidates who could win in the GE among |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Not a bad argument in terms of her GE viability |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Probably not but I do not know what one would measure the GOP dislike with. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I am not denying the hatred at all. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I didn't think you were.I have always respected you rinsd. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. wait. She does lead the top GOPers in GE match ups |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. "Conventional wisdom" unsupported by fact....Like Iraq having wmd's |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. It's not scientific, but I live among the right wing ... the hard core ones. |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Oh, I know what you're tlaking about.... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Oh yes, and with regard to most other topics, these folks are quite accommodating. |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Hating Clintons |
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syberyenta (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. ABC |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Well thank you for your "evidence" |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
16. I see it all the time |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
19. I think you meant to post this in GD:Empiricism. This is GD:ReceivedWisdom |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
22. you have not read all the posts saying so. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. oooh, now there's some evidence. Posts on DU say so. |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. Nothing beyond those high negatives, low head-to-head numbers, and every third defamation from |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 04:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. " low head-to-head numbers" |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. Here are some of Hillary's low head-to-head numbers I was referring to: |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-09-07 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
24. I can't, but there's a lot of anecdotal trouble from many directions and something potentially worse |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. there's a lot of anecdotes that say the opposite |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Okay, but can you "prove" them with stats either? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. no, which is why I never use anecdotes unless responding to anecdotes |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
25. They will take one look at their candidate |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 05:04 AM Response to Original message |
28. People who think that a Hillary nom will substantially drive |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
30. My FIL (repub) is going to caucus as a democrat to vote against her. EOM |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. Good question, rinsd |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. Damn I see you got off the fence and it wasn't to join us. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Yeah, it was a tough one |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
33. 32 replies and not single shred of evidence... |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. post evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Is that in question? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. is the the OP in question? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. of course it is. Which is why the OP exists. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. so I guess all the Repukes I know who bash Hillary all the time are imaginary? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. no more so than the Repukes I know who bash Obama and Edwards |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. you know Repukes who know Obama and Edwards??? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. did I say that? |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
34. that is what they said about her during the senate race--turned out to be a lie |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
37. Personal experience, listening to republicans, the 2000-2004 elections, and common sense |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. Hate doesn't equal turnout. |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
39. Use of Her Name to Drive Fundraising & Numerous High Negative Polls With Little Fluidity |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Actually that is a great test. The RNC recently used her name in a email. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
41. "proof", " evidence", is not compatible with rabid Hillary hatred on DU. nt. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
42. do you know any Republicans???? were you alive in the 90s?? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Because there is no evidence to support it. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
50. No empiric evidence, but one would have to have been in a coma - |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Actually AK that presents the chance for an experiment. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. that may be the GOP's only real leverage for fund-raising |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-10-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. Irrelevant |
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