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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:56 PM Original message |
The Clinton Campaign : Trouble in the horizon with the African-American Community |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh, please! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I believe that we can....... |
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coco77 (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Sorry,Too late! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. No, I'm afraid hillary can't do any better. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. I remember in 2000 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. What does this have to do with a campaign attempting to portray |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. It has to do with |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Who is saying that? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. You are saying that this will cause African Americans |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. The far left (Obamites) are going to use every card... |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. and yet the vote came out yesterday |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Seriously? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I'd get mailers from Lieberman |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. yep this story is right i listened to Joe Madison this morning on XM and they.... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Well the Black ministers have it.....and they are a relatively close knit group.... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. I don't think he really |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. True dat' |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
104. Good point |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. Frenchie, bar none (except for my wife), is my favorite DU'er! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Thanks! |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. we used to hammer it out for Clark back in they day! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Oh yeah...... |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. The Clinton's have never done anything to disenfranchise |
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Tess99 (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Typical of what the great bell hooks said about white liberal. Keep showing your true colors. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Thanks for your |
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bigdarryl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. well for a female to say I'M VOTING FOR HILLARY BECAUSE SHE IS A FEMALE IS SEXISM |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I'm not sure what you are going on about......? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. predictably disgusting. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. there it is... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. You seem to have chosen an appropriate handle for your post |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. echo's of tweety... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Was her work "harder" and Obama's easy? cause that's what she's implying.... |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. You left out the part where Bill Clinton referred to Sen. Obama |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
107. truly loser-worthy on Bill Clinton's part |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. I don't know why she would.. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. If This Contest Becomes Racialized Every Democrat Loses |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. The point exactly sir! |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I can't believe you said this.... |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Big difference here |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
110. The Clintons have already made sure that it is racialized |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
111. It already has. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
23. That was such fucking kindergarten |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
118. Yeah, worse than the racial angle was the juvenile aspect of it |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. as you are a member of the 'black community', you are fully aware that it is NOT... |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. You didn't hear? We all ride the big "black community" bus to the election. and vote as one. |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. heheh |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
62. Frenchiecat! you haven't responded yet? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Do I need to? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. Interesting. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
31. K&R - I'm white and it was clear as day to me. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
121. Yeah, now apparently some trouble out in WI |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. How soon we forget. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
35. What about this: |
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kevsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
36. Regardless of what point Hillary was actually trying to make... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. You are so right. She's playing the game, like Bush did on McCain.... |
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_Wayne_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
40. um, Negroes love Hillary |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. LOL! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
45. The black community will have a chance to weigh in on the Clinton Welfare Reform. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
83. The "black community" was lifted by Clinton's overall domestic/ economic policies. Black |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
49. I hope your candidate does not make this a black vs. white thing... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. What are you even talking about? |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. "Pie in the sky" vs "dumb shit"? |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #61 |
76. Your choice of photos speaks volumes |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Aaaaahhhhhhhh.....you sound like that "phoney liberal" my republican |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Obama's supporters have been very adept at telling us to support Obama or STFU... |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #63 |
78. but Edwards, unlike the Clintons still has a modicum of integrity left.... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
106. Well, Hillary has already done that |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
50. This was being discussed all over black radio today.... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. That's the thing....... |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. as I mentioned on another thread, if any Democrat.... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:53 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. You know, that more or less captures my own opinion |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #50 |
119. It's apparently on overdrive on the radio stations, not just the African-American ones either |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
52. Yeah, the MLK gaffe was truly one of HRC's dumbest comments |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
55. Edwards will finish second to Obama in South Carolina |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
59. I constantly encounter Democrats who will never vote for Hillary, and their numbers just jumped |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. and right before king's birthday.....and the caucus. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Great point about the timing! Hadn't noticed that before |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I just think it sucked...... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:53 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Meltdown is right |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:58 AM Response to Original message |
69. This is bullshit Frenchie |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Where did Frenchie ever claim such a thing, Ic? |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
70. The Clintons getting back into the WH will be the best for ALL Americans. |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. And just exactly how will it be best for ALL Americans? |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #71 |
81. "Rally the American people"? A competent administration of the federal goverment |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
112. You mean, like the very competent way that Hillary helped bring us into the Iraq fiasco |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Yeah, it will be awesome. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
120. With all this coming up, the Clintons have guaranteed that |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
72. Yesterday I posted my husband's reaction to the NH primary and |
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DivorcingNeo (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
75. May I have permission |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Could you post a link? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
95. I'd be honored. Please do! |
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DivorcingNeo (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Thank you!! |
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NoFederales (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
77. Hillary disrespects Obama because he is in "her" way; she neither |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
115. Yes, it's all about the Clintons, at the expense of the party |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
79. Excellent post! Yes, the Clintons are digging themselves into a hole |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
82. The Obama Campaign, Trouble in the horizon with Hispanics?? |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Hispanics may help her in the primaries, but they can't save her |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. She doesn't just have the Hispanics... |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Thanks for the statistics...... |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Yes, it will. |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
103. I cant wait! |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Stop it! You're killing me........... |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. The latino community loves the Clintons. (eom) |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. So did we, until we found out....n/t |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. So does the Black community. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Neither of us can presume to speak for the entire "Black Community" |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Then who is the "we" you speak of in your post #90? |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. The "we" that I've been listening to for the last several days |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
117. Except for the small detail that Hillary does not have Latino support |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
84. I tried to warn you edwards and us hrc supporters this race issue |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. How Clintonian, and dismissive you are..... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #84 |
102. Oh, you mean the way that HRC brought up the race issue by trashing MLK |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
88. I'm sure they can just "shuck'n'jive" their way past any problems. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. I'm sure! |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
99. WTF???? |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Great use of the smilies here |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
108. Thank you FrenchieCat |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Thanks! |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
113. She needs to learn some lessons from these people |
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codeindigo (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
114. your comments about hillary are despicable! |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
116. I think Hillary was really politically involved |
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