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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:16 AM Original message |
Here's the deal with the McClurkin issue |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ah, the "I know you are, but what am I?" response. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Again, your ability to grasp a point...missing! n/t |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Sharper than you, Mr. Obtuse. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
60. That's bunk. Obama has NO RECORD of throwing gays under the bus like the Clintons do. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. your disgusting EXCUSE making and DEFENDING THE INDEFINSIBLE is |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. "Let us all know when he "reaches-out" to the KKK..." Outrage like that is shameful. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
59. Fine then go vote for the Clintons who have a PROVEN RECORD of throwing gays under the bus |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. Kerry rocks....Obama still needs to apologize or fess up..... |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. You know what the really REAL deal with the McClurkin issue is? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Rock on |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "You have NO RIGHT to tell anyone else what to think about it." Do you? n/t |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Thank you. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Not really! n/t |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Agreed. |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
53. Thank you! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
9. Beating a dead horse! n/t |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. Why do you think it's beating a dead horse? Because |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. "Is that why you don't like hearing about it?" |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I think it's a fair debate, considering I've not |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
12. I love you darling, but I'm not sure what one has to do with the other |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Nothing! |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Believe me, I have perspective and I've moved on |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. That's fine. This was not a post about a decision to support Obama or not. n/t |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
69. Your OP is so cryptic, nobody understands what it's really about |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. "Quit whining you uppity gays!!!" Where did that come from? n/t |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. From 5 brazillion threads in the post-McClurkin era n/t |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
15. Shhh! Don't ask, Don't tell...What a disaster for our U.S. Military and deceitful by Clinton. |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
19. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to post this |
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rawtribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Thank you for your post! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. There is criticism and then there is perspective. |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Like David St. Hubbins once said |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. "hate" |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I hate bigots for their bigotry and the evil they commit in our world |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. "How do you feel towards them?" |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. So where are the so-called "distortions" in my post? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You misunderstood my post: |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Obama welcomed a bigot onto his campaign stage and gave him a microphone |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. No, I didn't characterize the statement. |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. So, you're cool with a Democratic candidate not apologizing for a bigoted statement |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Go back and read the series of comments. That's already been addressed! n/t |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I'll take it the answer is no |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. If it has already been addressed and available in this thread, how is that the same as no? |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I beg your pardon? Who's spinning? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. Where was the misstep? |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Excellent summary |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. And all Obama has to say to make things better is "I fucked up, I'm sorry." |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. No way Obama could drop Pastor Donnie from the "Change Teh Gay" Tour |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Too true, and too sad. n/t |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #55 |
80. so, if I'm understanding |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Bullshit, and you know it, being "ex-gay" is no more an orientation than... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I am in |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Obama LIED... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. well hey- |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. OK, it wasn't a misstep. You believe it was fine. I believe it was a misstep. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Actually, I've been trying to put pressure on his campaign, through e-mails... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. "The problem I have is that you, and many other Obama supporters" |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Did you, or did you not, just dismiss Obama's lie as a "misstep"? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I meant misstep! n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. See? And that's why I have a problem with some Obama supporters... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. You can have a problem with supporters of any of the candidates, but |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Then what the hell is it? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. "You are so cryptic, I have no effing clue where you stand."? Start |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. First, you minimize the incident in that post even more... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. ... |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Hey, don't you know that you're just supposed to shut up and get over it? |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
22. Redux: it's okay to fuck over the downtrodden for as long as you claim to be their savior |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. That would be all the candidates! n/t |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
37. I'm sure you would like this issue to just go away. It won't. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
38. You have more active posts than anyone on GDP |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I win! n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:01 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. And all Obama spam. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
86. As opposed to your anti-Obama spam? n/t |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
44. Your "source" is a blog post about Bob Shrum's book? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Did you miss the links to Time, Newsweek, Bloomberg and the NYT? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
47. Kerry's voting record was (and is) great; his 2004 campaigning wasn't |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
48. Obama lied, McClurkin Preached, and you decide to deflect... |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
50. Do you really even give a damn about GLBT people? |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Apparently not. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #50 |
62. I give a damn about all people! n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Prove it... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. "Admit you were wrong in starting this thread." No, I was not wrong! "Prove it" |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Heh, you'd have to prove that too, show some empathy... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
82. do YOU? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. What double standards? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. I'm not ignorant |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
58. Love it!!! Great threader, Prosense. n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
73. Yup, because being against bigotry and for civil rights is a dead horse |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. So you're against McClurkin's bigotry. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. McClurkin is not a member of Obama's campaign, just a hired spokesperson. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. "a hired spokesperson." Really? n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Hell yes he was hired as master of ceremonies of Obama campaign events. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
93. Kick! n/t |
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