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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:10 AM Original message |
Comparing Blacks Evangelicals To The KKK Is Fucked Up. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. I don't think Black Evangelicals have lynched anyone. nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. But if you look at the rate of suicide and homelessness among gay teens, whoever is |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. maybe you need to look at the |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Maybe you need to learn reading comprehension. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I never said you did either- what I DID |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Try again. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. you are correct- I did |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Thanks for not putting words in my mouth. But you can keep "bitter" out too. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Are you suggesting that GLBT Americans only recently started to experience bigotry? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. no, not at all- I'm |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Anti-gay bigotry is also excused by those who claim to be "progressive" |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I never said that it wasn't - and I don't |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. We have a lot of work to do to achieve full equality for everyone in this country |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. it wasn't my |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. You're right, it HAS been a long day and a long week. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. No, you can't compare them to the Klan, but you can't simply give BO |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. He doesn't give them blind acceptance. He's mentioned it when speaking to congregations. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. It's one thing to be uncomfortable with homosexuality...we are all |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. I think this issue continues to be sold as a hight pitch simply because |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Well, I think differently...BO was asked to take Donnie off the program |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. One individual, such as this Donnie person is not powerful enough |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Thank you, straight person, for telling the GLBT community |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. Here's the crux of it, as I see it. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
72. Bingo |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
4. Pitting the poor against the poor is nothing new |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. Well put. The "divide and conquer" strategy HRC learned from being a Goldwater Conservative. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. And folks keep falling for it....... |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
6. Good post. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. let us know when he reaches out to the RACISTS... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Then how about Obama go on the Don Imus show? |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I want to be clear |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Ah. We agree. Thank you for explaining. I don't know why the OP thinks black evangelicals |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Kirbyjohn Caldwell? |
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Dante_ (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
7. Do you condemn Homophobia with more than words? |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
8. Where do you get your information that black evangelicals are homophobic? |
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Dante_ (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. "I have yet to meet an evangelilcal homophobe either black or white. " WTF? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. YOU and the OP are the ones TRYING to frame it as an "evangelical" issue... |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
11. Nice straw man |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Actually, you just proved my point, thanks. It's essentially a mirror of the bigotry. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. That's just a bunch of bullshit... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. What?? You're not making any sense, and I think you're just trying to stir up trouble. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. cryingshame has decided that black evangelicals are homophobic. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. If I were a black evangelical I would be very offended by the OP. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Me too. I'm sure there are evangelicals of all races who are not homophobic. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I know for a fact that there are lots of evangelicals of all races who are not homophobic. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. Thankfully, we have straight people around to tell us what to think about homophobia |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Yeah, straight white people from Long Island telling us about sexual politics in the South. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
15. Bigots are bigots, regardless of race or religion. Gay teens are at high risk for suicide, for |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
18. Nobody is criticizing black evangelicals. This is a straw man argument. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
21. let us know when he gives the KKK a platform like he does REPEATEDLY to the gay bashers... |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
23. Trying to convince me to suck face with people who condemn me to hell is fucked up. n/t |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
24. Who has compared black evangelicals with the KKK? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
25. and NO it's not about reaching out to the "evangelicals" it's about pandering to the HOMOPHOBIC |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
31. What planet are you from? |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
35. Lay down with bigots..wake up with the bigot label, I'm afraid... |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
41. Black evangelicals are more important to the party than gays |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Both are important, for $ and for votes. That's why Obama is living a double life, |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Encouraging bigotry to win an election is absurd |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. But it's okay |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. I don't mind calling you a damn bigot right out in the open |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
73. I also don't mind calling you a damn bigot right out in the open |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Arithmetic, my ass. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
52. An interesting link for those who might |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. What are you getting at? |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. trying to justify Black bigotry aganist gays? |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Sounds like it, by way of blaming the victim. n/t |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. justify it???? ABSOLUTELY |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Looks like it's back to the old "homophobes are gay" song and dance. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. no, - not by a long shot- but |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. The only group you can blame for homophobia is the straight community |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I do believe it- just as I believe that most of those who |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I read the article for the third time, and arrived at the same conclusion |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I think that it IS relevant, when |
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