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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 05:58 PM Original message |
Mickey Kantor did NOT utter a racial epithet - forensic proof (large picture) |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Aaaargg!....Look Out!...Horizontal scroll bars! |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Sorry...I work on a large screen. |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. technically |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Actually I added the text in MS Paint :-) |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. DIEBOLD a BOLICAL! |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thank you!! |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. HILLARYOUS |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I'm an Obama supporter. I am also an audio professional. |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. I need some lessons on Audition! |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Yes, but please see the update post below. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
43. But how do we know you didn't doctor a graphic?.... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. You don't, but see below for an update. |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thanks for the very educational post. n/t |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. The whispered phrase in question, although it is not at all clear that he says |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Here's The Transcript |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Yeah, they left out a whispered phrase in the transcript. Kantor is whispering to |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Here's My Take |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. He is saying how would you like to lose Texas or how would like to be in the White House now |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. No - I just remarked on what the audio in the youtube video shows |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. Kantor Should Sue And Subpoeana YouTube To Get The ISP Of The Poster |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. If he does, I hope to hell the ISP doesn't play ball. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. He Was Libeled |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. I'm not so sure. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. The Tape That Has Been Removed |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Defamation is not protected speech -- never has been.. That's why it's actionable. |
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Kaylee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. Here's my question.... |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
13. So... he did say "those people are shit" |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I don't believe it was dubbed, I have proof. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. The close captioning on the DVD said "those people are gonna shit!" |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Close captioning is very unreliable |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Well, one could argue that it was given the approval by the fillmmakers... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. If you have the DVD, can you get me that part of the soundtrack? |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. He was saying Those people are shitting, thats a fact..... |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. It might arguably been what he *intended* to say, but he DID NOT say shitting.... |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-03-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. You do realize we're arguing over semantics on a 16 year old video???? |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
44. Welll, there's also common sense. Kantor was pleased with and surprised by that result. |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. Was the phrase necessarily fake or amplified? I listened to the original and heard it. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It couldn't have been. Whatever he says, it's in the original original. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Then get me a copy of the original DVD sountrack and I'll tell you. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. It's fake. Amplifying does not add new spectral information. |
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DawgHouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
17. Thanks. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
22. Thanks. |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
25. The reality is that if he had said "white N____r" there would of been an uproar.... |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. I think you used my sample, this could be the reason for your findings |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. OK...give me a few minutes to try that out and I'll report back. |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Awesome, thanks. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. UPDATE: Can now NOT say whether it was doctored (my brain hurts) |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. PS if you want pictures.... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Thank you for that final report. I appreciate your analysis. I have done quite a bit... |
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Pawel K (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Thanks for your work, it's really appreciated. And my apologies for the confusion |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. Thanks. Appreciate the extra work. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. Thanks, good job. |
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Freedom Train (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. Amazing and impressive! |
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Mobius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. Yeah well such an ameteur job |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
41. Nice work -- thanks for the visual! |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
42. Thanks, but I'll believe the people who own the DVD, played it, and heard it. |
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Mobius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Not really |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. The picture is not meaningless. However... |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. You are very impressive. Bravo!! |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
54. IMPORTANT: please posts #26 and #45 for an update |
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