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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:48 PM Original message |
For those who say they won't vote for Hillary in the GE: The Supreme Court |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. She's going to lose us Congress |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We will not lose Congress over the next 4 years regardless of whom the nominee is. n/t |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. We did the last time a Clinton was in office |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yet Bill still got 2 liberal justices appointed. n/t |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Uh, he was president. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Because some Supreme Court Justices change over time. |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Not sure where you are going with this. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yes, either candidate can pick liberal justices. |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. They have a TON to do with Congress people |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
91. The other two "liberal" justices were appointed by Republicans |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. As if that wasn't because of trends that began three decades prior... |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. The blacks will stay home, the sexists and Clinton-haters will turn out. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The AA community will not stay home. That is only your wishful thinking speaking. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Good thing for us, the situation is entirely hypothetical anyway. |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Really? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Nobody is "throwing out" Obama. |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Her only path to nomination is to throw out the pledged delegate vote which she has lost |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. She hasn't lost the pledged delegate vote. |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. He will have the most. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:16 PM Original message |
Here are the facts: |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
51. Again, you are misleading |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. False. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Bullshit |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. And there is nothing anywhere in the rule book about Popular Vote either |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Obama is going to finish this with a sizable lead in pledged delegates. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. That's the standard for pledged AND unpledged. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Exactly. If they did affirmative action is gone forever |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Your logic leaves out mass anger at the Clinton's race-baiting |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. So Obama's policies don't matter to them according to you? |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Done. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. What? So Obama is about Obama and not any issues? |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
87. Don't be too sure. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. The Blacks? |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. While I see your point |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Yup. THE Blacks. Face them. |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. With Hillary in office 2010 could make 1994 look like a picnic |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Uh-huh |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. wrong.... with HRC on the top of the ticket, the repubs will come out in droves! |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. Wow. What naivete! |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. why? loyalty to the person is more important than to the party and nation? nt |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. What are you talking about??? |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. Hillary isn't going to be involved in the GE - so this isn't something |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. And, of course, |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree with your points, but think you're missing a point. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes I am, and any liberal should do the same. n/t |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. I voted Obama in my Primary. But I'd vote for any Dem. in the GE. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. I don't care |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. So, you're saying elect Hillary so she can appoint corporatists to the SCOTUS? |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'll tell you sometthing, NJ |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Good for you. |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Damn, NJ |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
18. Good sentiment. Now tell it to the HiIllary supporters claiming they'll vote for McCain as well. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I have made that very clear to many Hillary supporters. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Ok, cool. |
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Tinksrival (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. If Hill steals this election |
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pinkpops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
25. Keep in mind that everyone who may vote Democratic does not |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. That is true, but any liberal should care about the Supreme Court, IMO. n/t |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I will |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
27. There is a single instance where I would rebut |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. I've harped on this many times, for the sake of the Supreme Court, |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. Now the unity thread? |
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goletian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. many will not vote for hillary. not after all shes done. - nt |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. goletian |
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goletian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #39 |
81. im on du because im a dem. hillary is the antidem. - nt |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. There's no assurance Hillary would nominate liberals to the SC |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Her husband appointed liberals, why wouldn't she? n/t |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. As has previously been pointed out, her husband lost us Congress too |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
40. Yes, which makes it all the more baffling why she blames Obama for FL and MI. |
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pinkpops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Yes, both candidates agreed on the rules - and it's funny, |
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CindyKay (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. No |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
46. With all of this at stake you "best" take a look at Obama. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
47. Huge Problem With Your OP. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
50. Blackmail attempt: |
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CindyKay (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
60. I am an Independent & I Just Cannot Do It |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Well the DNC needs to do something about Florida pretty quick, as many Floridians are so mad.... |
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CindyKay (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Oh , I Know |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Why exactly? Clinton herself signed off on sanctioning FL and MI. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
62. First of all, this is moot - if it were McCain vs. Clinton, McCain would win. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
66. Someone who'll obliterate tens of millions of men, women and children isn't to be trusted... |
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CindyKay (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Thank You |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
69. She's given me no reason to believe that she'd appoint Liberal Judges. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-04-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
77. Extremely weak argument |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Additionally: This amounts to extorting a Clinton vote out of us, with the SCOTUS as hostages... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. oh god lord. the OP has so much power over you now? Talk about spin. Get a grip!! |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
79. Hillary is Republican. Republican Lite at BEST. NO REASON to believe she won't... |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
82. I'll agree if 2012 is taken off the damn table, |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
83. Hillary is DLC so your post is flawed at Point #1 |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
84. You're proselytizing to the wrong crowd; the overwhelming majority of Obama supporters will support |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
86. I'm voting for Democratic nominee, not Hillary. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
88. The Supreme Court is already gone. |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
89. "We do not want more Samuel Alitos on the court." |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
90. If Some Hillary Wins... |
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noisyanimal (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-05-08 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
92. very good point |
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