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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:18 PM Original message |
GOP pollster/wordsmith Luntz to GOP: How To Oppose Obama's Health Care Plan |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. We need to neutralize Luntz |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. The problem is, that requires them to come up with some reform. |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Exactly! They can't just say 'no' |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. True. I doubt they think they have to do anything more than scare the public via disinformation. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Luntz is smart enough to realize that won't work; if you don't have an alternative, |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Luntz seems to realize the limitations of the lump of dried clay he's trying to breath life into. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. "as anyone who has watched previous battles over health care reform can tell you" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. You can post a comment on Karen Tumulty's blog. She does sometimes reply. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. The current system doesn't put docs in charge, insurance co.s call the shots. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. GOP talking points are never meant to be truthful. They are meant for their base. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. And the ever dreaded HMOs and people are getting wise to this BS. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. And then CNN or MSNBC will use him as a "neutral" pollster during those town meetings |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Yeah, that claim is a joke. Wasn't that Faux News who always used him last year? |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. A Luntz talking point:" “It could lead to the government setting standards of care |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. If that's all they got -- and it is -- they're DONE. It's the insurance companies, stupid! |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Exactly -- insurance companies decide treatment, not doctors. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. Wow! That was really fast |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. BushCo funding put alot of GOP operatives in NPR leadership so I'm not surprised. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. When is someone going to retaliate? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. All this stuff is still under the radar. The fight has not begun in earnest yet. |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
16. What Luntz fails to take into account is the fact that ... |
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Puzzler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
19. Rebuttals... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Very good. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
20. Luntz talking points describe our current situation, with a few simple word change |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. lol! You're good at this, too. We could use all of these excellent rebuttals in future LTTE. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Further talking point refinement -- Pick your own evildoer |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. Now, insurance companies are |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
22. Yes and the sky could fall |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
27. hold on just a second |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. Of all the annoying lying ass right wing jagoffs Luntz has to rank in the top 10 if not 5. nt |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
29. . |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
30. My Counter Luntz's Points |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Short and sweet. These would make good soundbites. |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
31. CLARK...please edit this to include rebuttal talking points that we can use |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I wish I could... but my editing period has expired. |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. That sounds like a great idea! Look forward to seeing it. :) |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
36. Easy Nuke On Their Parade: Senators/Congresspeople NOW get government-run healthcare! |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Bull's eye! |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. We need a televison ad that says EXACTLY THAT |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
38. Newsflash for Lunkhead-Luntz |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
39. Steny Hoyer and Chuck Todd are discussing the Luntz memo on The Ed Show now. |
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pot luck (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
42. I saw an anti health care ad on CNN the other day |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. The RNC is good at that. Democrats are keeping their powder dry for now. |
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