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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:45 PM Original message |
Intelligent Design supporter has me stumped. Help! |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. First of all, is there conclusive proof of any alternate universes? |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-26-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. "the TTSS does not tell us how either it or the flagellum evolved" |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. You are in a |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yeah I know, but still. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. It means there are parallel universes. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Good point. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
39. Q. "Where is the Universe?" |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yeah, which universe do you mean, anyway? |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. " IF" The big little word. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. Your friend's point is incoherent. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. The hole in that logic is huge. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Actually... |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I don't think a designer would waste time with ALL possible outcomes. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. There is an easy way to dispose of that, too. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. The "creative force" is life itself. |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. I don't see how it makes a point. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. or ontology. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't like the term "intelligent design", since its a trojan horse for |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Yeah, he's similar although not Christian. |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. I agree with him to a limited extent |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. If there's no evidence for it, why should it be believed? nt |
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President Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. I.D. is philosophy; Evolution is scientific |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Yep...right along side Nihilism. |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. That's exactly the difference between ID and science. |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
17. Who says that the Theory of Evolution says that are 'all that random' |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
19. Both evolution and id; |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. ID is the result of two irresistable tendencies |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. Evolution is not random, or anything like random. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. it's still random processes |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I didn't say nothing is random. I said evolution is not random. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 12:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. random processes are the main part of evolution |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 01:06 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Genetic change is "channeled" by the requirement that the resulting |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. that's a new theory : so the result "channels" the cause ? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Of course not. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. new definition of random |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. It's the mathematical definition: |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-04-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Your quote gives me right |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Sorry, but no |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. the first part of the sentence doesn't correlate to the second |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It's how he views Intelligent Design. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Are there any other answers than yours ? |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. LOL |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
26. If a scientist believed in ID |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
27. Enjoy the mystery! |
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Geoff R. Casavant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. Here's the way out |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. Think in basics - |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
44. Not at all |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. It's sort of like the Drake equation, so full of supposition as to border |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
48. Exact opposite of ID. |
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