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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:57 AM Original message |
OK, fine, capitalism is evil and must be destroyed completely |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. please let me keep my land |
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Bok_Tukalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. My utopia has hovercars |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Thats all I need. Can I join up if I vote for you? |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
63. ROFL |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
78. meh, I don't think a combo of Bladerunner and Demolition Man sounds like Utopia to me. nt |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. I would settle for socializing health care |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I'd socialize the insurance because the private sphere has fucked it up |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
55. What about the state of the economy? Has the private sphere fucked it up? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
4. Regulated capitalism and a mixed economy would be good enough |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. but it's not good enough for quite a few here, and I'm curious as to |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I think many of them are frustrated and don't know what they want because any solutions |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
57. Best one-sentence answer I've seen in awhile |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
74. Absolutey |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. They have no idea- they just like to feel "fierce and revolutionary" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. well, i've been waiting 30+ years for it, but the trend has been in the opposite direction. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
41. I think a talking dog would be awesome, but that just isn't in the cards. |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. Would you really want someone who would eat his own vomit |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:16 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Can you imagine the kind of dirty jokes that someone who spends a significant portion of time... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
80. But as humans, would we "get" them? nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. I would be down with the him eating the vomit. It means I wouldn't have to clean it up. like now. nt |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:30 AM Response to Reply #41 |
65. Oh ho... |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
9. What country is it that should be our goal to emulate? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. It might help if you were to venture beyond the borders of your county. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Just to be a pain in the ass here. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Actually, Britain did not get national healthcare until they gave up |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. and shortly after they got it, they began to defund it. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. I didn't like the dangerous, filthy, corrupt countries I went to outside of our borders. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. which countries were those? |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Spain, Itally, Sicily, can't remember others. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. when were you in spain/italy, 1943? i've been there, didn't see the bloody hellholes |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Must have been about1985. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. what was so awful? i enjoyed both countries, & i'm an ultra-budget traveler. |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
84. He's full of shit. In Spain the cops are more scared of the people than the other way around. He's c |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Odd. I was in Sicily in 91-92 |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
83. You can't remember other countries you've been to? Take some time and come up with some |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
10. Whoever says capitalism is pure evil is a bloody moran (with an intentional 'a'). Capitalist system |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
61. The irony is that in capitalism most people don't actually own their property. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
11. Anything vital, infrastructure-heavy, or 'too big to fail' needs to be nationalized. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I don't want communications in the hands of the government. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. You don't trust We the People? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
54. Ah, but private owners are people too... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
43. Banking is already in the hands of the government, or vice versa. It's hard to tell with Geithner. |
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The_Commonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
12. I like to call it "Commonizm" |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
14. Capitalism is not pure evil - |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. There are many ways to configure an economy... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. wikipedia? really? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. (snort) |
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TheMachineWins (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
21. Ah, my utopia is such a wonderful land of happiness |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
22. Good + Evil = Stupid |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. exactly. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. You're asking questions that require thought out answers |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
26. dupe delete |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. My utopia: |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Now that would be an unmitigated disaster |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Classic. Grovelbot destroys cali's thread with a single post. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. grab a clue |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Actually DU provides it's product free of charge. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Because that's DU's business model. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #53 |
71. That is not a capitalist model. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Really? Giving away some of your product for free and charging for other aspects |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 06:13 AM Response to Reply #51 |
69. weak. it's a for profit entity. period. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Wrong. DU is here to promote Democratic party causes and ideals. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. You can get TV for free (supported by ads) so that isn't capitalism either? |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Huh? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:20 AM Response to Reply #44 |
66. Note how the capitalists move the goalposts. |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
34. Maybe I missed the post this is in response to. Is it Nadine's post on consumerism? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. When left uncontrolled & unrestrained, it's an immensely destructive force. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
40. Stop bailing out the system, and it will take care of its own disintegration. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
42. what does that mean? |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. Yeah, well, then you'll love this: |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. Isn't Socialism just capitalism for the people? nt |
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Prune Belly (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
59. I think liberal capitalism works pretty well in the West, thanks |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
88. So I guess you're living the good life in Bethesda ... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
60. Capitalism means a society based on capital, or more precisely, non-possessive property. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
76. The OP's point is that even if your premise is true, the obvious question remains: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. Anarchism. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
64. Good question |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:36 AM Response to Original message |
68. It has to be a melting pot. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
73. I hate to say it but it's pretty much like yours with one big exception. I |
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suzy creemcheeze (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
77. My utopia is that I can have the basics in life without having to feel like a slug... |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
81. No, stringent regulation is all that is needed. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
82. why would the (inevitable) death of capitalism mean the end of free enterprise? |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. So the death of capitalism is inevitable. The issue still remains. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
86. Start with destroying Wall Street & the Stock Market |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. So the concept of publicly owned companies should be outlawed? n/t |
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