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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:17 PM Original message |
Poll question: Have you ever been persuaded by DUers at the other end of the political spectrum? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't label myself but I've changed my mind based on what I've read here--many times. nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. That was what I was going to write. Me too. eom |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Me too.. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yurbud...there have been some folks replying to DU Polls who got Granite Pizza.. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. feel free to PM me--I won't make it public. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. I really don't think you have anything to be concerned about KoKo |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Don..as you know ...I'm not always with you in some view...so yes...I still am concerned.. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm a left leaning progressive and I have never been convinced |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. Some moderates have persuaded me that they are worse enemies of progress than I had ever imagined. |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. I've really never had a conflict with anyone except |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. oddly, I'm a little to the right of a lot here on abortion, but got some information that |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. me too...same issue |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Absolutely. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. I've been persuaded, but not in the way they'd like to think. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. if that is the route we have to go, things will get a lot uglier before they get better |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Persuaded to do what? |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. only on minor details, not on any serious policy issue |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. I cross swords with progressives on DU. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Progressives and centrists don't want the same things for our society.. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Wrong. The key differential is the pace. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. So it is not the pace, but the cause you do not share? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. Can one be a progressive and believe that a progressive agenda isn't going to happen anytime soon |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Dems keep electing centrists while the Repubs elect right wing extremists.. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:53 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. i think it depends on how old you are & how many centrist democrats |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. are you sure progressives and centrists want the same things? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. you're also implying that progressive change is glacially slow yet |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. The reason is republicans cry harder. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
57. really? i've seen no evidence over the last 30 years. they just keep adding more. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. You are *PRECISELY* the sort of person I was speaking about in my reply above. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Re-read. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. People with no convictions at all; expediency over principle. (NT) |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. If you say so. I can promise you that in five years I will make more |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:36 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Somehow, I don't see the great civil rights changes of the 50s and 60s... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Dictionary says a 'centrist' has 'moderate views' and that |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Moderate also means "calm", "temperate", "reasoned" |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:19 AM Response to Reply #41 |
61. "Centrists" are as gung ho about their ideology as anyone on the extremes or more so |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. What do you mean? That is a characterization, not an example |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Behaving in a way that leads to the election of republicans will set progressive causes |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. Is there a place at DU for people who fall at various times somewhere between |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. yes--nobody should be standing still. |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
18. Other: I'm a Socialist. Centrists are dead to me and Progressives provide stepping stones. nt |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. stepping stones for you or the centrists? |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Matthew. You are going to at least give centrists the ceremonial |
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jp11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
22. I'm not in lots of threads arguing or debating issues day after day but |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
23. Back in 2004-05 I was pulled very far leftward (or forward) on supporting gay marriage. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Understand what you say....but.. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. I think I'm in general less inclined to linkage between unrelated issues |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
25. The Pentagon Budget |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. Guns, hell yeah |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
28. yes, on DU by saracat i think in 07, |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. she did make some good points...and, she is missed. n/t |
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comtec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
32. I'm a moderate, and I have been convinced once or twice by the far left |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. How is today's 'centrist' different from the 'Reagan Democrats' |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. What about "support for Endless War" with two of the three being illegal and the third |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
58. i think centrists are those who follow the dlc party line |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
45. The "Centrists" can kiss my rear end. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
49. I've got into some really bizarre arguments lately but have yet to be persuaded. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'm a canadian so I don't fit into those categories. Of course I've been influenced by stuff I've |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
52. I have been persuaded. I don't have many agendas. nt |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
53. I learn from folks to my left all the time, the right is failed ideology about all the way over. |
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Rochester (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
54. Other: I'm socially moderate but economically leftist |
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Mister Ed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:05 AM Response to Original message |
59. IF THEY WRITE IN ALL CAPS I'm usually convinced they must be right. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
62. Raises the difference between persuasive argument vs. attack / propaganda / flaming |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. I gave up another board because the attacks were so vicious, and somehow, hiding someone else's |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
63. If anything, DU exposes how weak "centrist" arguments are. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. only without the self-hating |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
66. All the time. n/t |
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Philippine expat (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
67. But I'm both progressive and centrist , |
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