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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 07:56 PM Original message |
Arizona Cops Shoot Former Marine In Botched Pot Raid |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. murder |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I'm sure they'll get a firm talking to and a stiff fine. n/t |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. First Read This as "I'm Sure They'll Get a Film" |
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think (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. agree..nt |
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dhill926 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. yep........ |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. The more well-trained, well-diciplined man was murdered by cowboy wannabees |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. Hit with 60 of the 70 rounds that the POLICE GANG fired. |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. The "liberal' "saint" Clarence Dupnik's thugs are repsponsible for this. |
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DisgustipatedinCA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. In that case..... |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I have never voted for a law enforcement official. For the most part |
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DisgustipatedinCA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. thanks |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Funny, Wiki only describes him as a Democrat. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Oh wow |
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Yavapai (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
91. He is the same sheriff that failed to investigate over 400 sex crimes. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. The link you gave me is about Sheriff Joe |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
48. Sadly, many Democrats have embraced this ridiculous 'War on Drugs' |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. I have never voted for a law enforcement official. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
50. I thought about that also. And over marijuana. |
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DisgustipatedinCA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. narco pigs |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. That makes two of us. n/t |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
62. And they let the victim 'bleed out.' No reason why that I can see. I |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. wow .. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. oh, how horrid |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Joe Biden is one of the biggest drug warriors in DC. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It's not that different anywhere else really.. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
80. Ah PG County... |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Fixed. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Sorry... |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. The only policy in our history more tragic than the War on (some) Drugs is slavery |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
63. Um, well actually, as bad as the war on drugs is, it pales in comparison |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. Shameful how they let him bleed to death |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
47. RIGHT!!! He COULD have been saved, they murdered the guy and didin't follow procedures |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
17. Cops in this country are seriously out of control..... |
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oldbanjo (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 07:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. And they wonder why people |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. I am more shocked how many people respect them! n-t |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. And they wonder why they can't get respect? |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. True. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
23. The War on Drugs is a farce at this point! |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. I don't really have a problem with the shooting itself... |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. if he had killed those cops in this situation, I wouln't have convicted. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Neither would I |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
70. but you're saying they are justified in shooting him first |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Nor would I. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
75. You probably would not find a jury that would vote to convict in most states. nt |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I think |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. 70 rounds is a bit much, indeed |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
71. you said it was justified a minute ago |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. There is a point where it ceases to be justified. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. And you wouldn't draw your weapon if you had one if a gang was invading your home for no apparent |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. If I had one handy, then hell yes, I would have. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I do not have all the facts here, nor will I pretend to have them. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
84. It has caused the standards for warrants to be lowered drastically |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
53. Doesn't the Patriot Act cover this and isn't that why people are so |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
65. Do you have a problem with the FACT that the pigs, er, cops, let the |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
85. Honestly, I can't judge without more details. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I see your point. I hope the surviving family member get justice thru |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. They might call in Cheney's paper-shredding company! |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
69. you don't have any problem with 70 shots fired into a dark hallway |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
76. If I don't want people to be a clear and present danger to me, I don't break into their homes. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. I thought the raid was about "a home invasion robbery ring" not "pot" |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. According to |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Well this is just confusing: |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I just glanced through it real quick |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. O'Connor is a fucking liar. - n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. Deleted message |
JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
37. 911 call from wife |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Ugh. I could only listen to a minute of that. |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
56. Delete |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
39. war against pot is a war against people. |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. +1 |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-25-11 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
41. We are going to have to defund the police. The police state is too dug in, |
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d_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
43. Murdered |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
46. THEY MURDERED HIM!! The didn't allow parametics to treat him for over an hour |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
49. This is more than shooting a Marine. They refused the medics to |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
51. Fucking legalize marijuana already and end this madness!!! |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
54. Murderers. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
55. The Pigs murder people? Who knew? |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
57. Fuckin' pigs.. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Well, we 100% agree on this! :-) |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
58. It's time to also yank away the SWAT toys |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
59. "They found guns and body armor in his home" |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
61. Yay, Cops! |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
64. The FOP needs to be broken up. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
73. Why do they always prevent paramedics from treating their victims after they shoot them? nt |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Dead men neither tell tales nor testify in court n/t |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
74. Again, firepower trumps actual police work. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
78. These JackBooted Cowards |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
79. Another sad casualty from the "war on drugs". |
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kenichol (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-26-11 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
81. It's the whole war on drugs enchilada |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
87. if interested, video on youtube now |
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DreamSmoker (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
88. Justice is out the window |
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Yon_Yonson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-27-11 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
90. Bunch of fucking trigger happy cops ... |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-29-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
93. Pima Cty, Arizona....what a surprise.....not....so sad; former Marine who survived Iraq X 2 |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-11 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
94. it is murder |
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williamblake (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-11 05:14 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. ose Guerena did not shoot at SWAT team that killed him |
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