Reply #7: i think we agree for the most part [View All]

as you wrote:
"For treating symptoms of depression/PTSD, Scientology is apparently fairly efficacious for reasons unrelated to its theories or particular practices. The incredible doses of calcium and magnesium and niacin and heavy sauna regimens can have real side effects, but in making people do new and on the whole fairly harmless stuff in aggregate (if they are reasonably healthy and skeptical) they're going basically the right stuff, and perhaps for cheaper than if they did things by sticking in their daily routines enhanced with antidepressants...."

similar to my:
"one pertinent aspect of scientology - and i vehemently reject its ulterior philosophies - in regards health matters, is that it practices one of innumerable health systems that view health matters from outside the white male judeochristian profiteering paradigm.

the result is some excellent health information and alternative treatments."

scientology is not judeochristian, by definition. but more to that point, its *health systems* are outside that paradigm - while unquestionably intended to lure us deeper into the philosophy and its ultimate profiteering.

i do know quite a bit about the philosophy.
but my concern is health care.

as i wrote, there are far better alternative healing systems, but those are even less available to all but the affluent, who are, in fact, using them. homeopathy, for instance.

but about herbs - rather, botanical pharmacology - please consider that what male medicine is doing is merely isolating what they perceive as active ingredients of often ancient remedies, and reducing them to chemical components. this accomplishes resource control. by government and the insurance industry handing a monopoly to chemical conglomerates, the massive majority of people can only receive those old remedies in reduced - denatured - form.

while the affluent are being healed and their lives prolonged by the actual, active, natural forms.

there is no question that lemonbalm tea works as well as, and more safely than, man-made seditives.

but more, the kinds of traditional healing i refer to are, for instance, traditional Hawai'ian la'au lapa'au, which can cure cancers, among so much else. or Nigerian traditional, which always had a cure for sickle cell anemia. the Japanese and soy for menses balances....

that list goes on and on, and the pharmaceutical companies are determined to control those means, as all possible.

they cannot profit from what we can grow in our own gardens, or window boxes - or cooperatively share. nor will allopaths maintain this hold on us if we learn of our relationship with Nature who provided us cures for all that could afflict us - evidenced by our lasting aeons - before man-made, or mutant afflictions of today.

it is fascinating! and would appear magic to many, of course. and, likewise, easily discredited.

now, i would like there to be sources other than scientology, but they are who are out there offering, affordably - if not cost-free, as i have seen in some places.

the lesson, it seems to me, is to avoid any special/self-interest parties cornering our health needs.

thank you for discussing this, Lexingtonian. i guess i have exceeded the scope of this particular thread.

i look forward to discussing this more on another thread some time.

by the way, if you grow your own aloe, then remove the gel yourself, it is an amazing multipupose medicine. look more into it. of course, in the hands of the chemical empire - including the cosmetics one - it is just as useless-to-dangerous as any other commercial product.

try a cup of the fresh gel in a fruit smoothy now and then.

be well

peace