Reply #22: It has already been getting worse for women! [View All]

Even with us there women are being pressured if they don't live up (or down) to Muslim codes of dress and behavior. It will only get so much worse if this is made into law-and we did this.

It's fine to say they'll vote it down and fight but we don't understand that kind of oppression, we don't even know if they will retain that right to vote.

I've been reading little bits about this for some time. Too lazy to look for links I will use part of an article I copied to word. It's from the blog of the journalist, Steven Vincent, soon before he was killed. This is not the most relevant part to this thread, but in the same article she describes not being in garb and getting strong disapproval, and even this free spirited women gave in to avoid trouble. Nothing like being completely covered when it's 100+.

I think this is the lady who was shot with him, don't know how she is, she had been in serious condition.

But this snip really struck me about what we might owe them. Women were free, now they are much less free and soon they might have no freedom at all. I don't know what we can do about it but good Lord, we start this war that ravages there country and then we leave with 50% of them so clearly worse off for decades to come?

OK, here it is

Steven Vincent had taken his friend and interpreter, Layla, to meet an American Captain. Layla and the Captain were discussing Iraq's future.

He said "But should we really get involved in choosing one political group over another?" the Captain countered. "I mean, I've always believed that we shouldn't project American values onto other cultures--that we should let them be. Who is to say we are right and they are wrong?"

Layla's response: "No, believe me!" she exclaimed, sitting forward on her stool. "These religious parties are wrong! Look at them, their corruption, their incompetence, their stupidity! Look at the way they treat women! How can you say you cannot judge them? Why shouldn't your apply your own cultural values?"
From http://www.spencepublishing.typepad.com/in_the_red_zone/

We talk about bringing freedom, but letting religion dominate government there is going to enslave women, women who were free, and that's NOT right. It isn't OK