Reply #196: Bizarre "logic" there [View All]

There's an illegal war in Iraq, which we need to end by leaving. But given the turmoil you speak of, you want them left there under the Kerry terms of "success" (undefined by him), because taking them out of the real cause of the turmoil--Iraq, will instead be the cause of turmoil? Do you know that there is turmoil in Iraq? A simultaneous civil war and insurgency and a breeding and training ground for terrorists.

Murtha is courageous enough to acknowledge that the "mission" will not lead to success. It is worthless to talk about a withdrawal plan as nebulous as Kerry's is without making it clear that there is no success to be had now (how can a war based on lies about the threat, and an illegal invasion ever be successful?) because it contains an "out" that extends our presence there until success is met. and thus given the illegality and illogic of the war, we must have as Kerry calls it a "plan for success".