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civil_liberties_dem Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 06:12 AM
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13. Ahh interesting I didn't know where jihadunspun.com came from.
I had started reading jihadunspun.com more and more as it seemed somewhat balanced.

Not like our stupid news sites: and today 1 american soldier died, but before he went down he killed at least 100 iraqi enemy terrorists criminals.

If people came to where I live, I would expect a kill ratio of something like 2 to 1 at least, in favor of the defenders. I know my area well. I know many people where I live. I could hide weapons anywhere. I could live in the forests for months on end if neccessary. I would choose when I attacked.

The americans largely were having relatively few casualties by just hiding in two bases year round. Of course they are starting to have to come out now as the country slips back into taliban control. International journalists in afghanistan say that the taliban now controls outright 4-5 provinces and can openly operate in many more.

Some times people wonder where bin laden could be. I say he could easily be in afghanistan itself still. Let me give you this analogy, Russia takes over switzerland. They only leave 5,000 troops there though. All of which are in one base in zurich. Everytime they leave the base they get shot dead.

Would you say it would be hard for a european terrorist to hide somewhere in switzerland? Oh ya in addition the swiss forces still control 5 provinces lol.

Basicaly as most military experts said before america ever went in, you will slowly get deconstructed in afghanistan. Of course you will take over the regional capitals. All that takes is tipping whose side some warlords is on. The US spent 4 billion dollars in 2002 paying off warlords in afghanistan. And the taliban before them had been paying off warlords.

The problem is america is greedy, it stopped paying the warlords. So now it is confined to its base in Kabul. And to a far lesser extent the airbase outside of Kandahar. America controls the area directly around their base in Kabul during the daytime.

Was it enough to tip the balance of power? Absolutely. Is it enough to get control of the country? Not even remotely close. The soviets had over 10 times the number of troops that america has in there, and they had that for 10 years. And they couldn't do it. The greatest land army the world has ever seen, the one that beat the germans, couldnt' keep control of it. And it was their neighbour. They were moving equipment and men in by rail.

The americans are flying them around the world in. Do you have any idea how much amunition costs when you have to fly it in? We are talking small small fights costing in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Oh ya and afghanistan's population has exploded since 1989 when the soviets left, as has the talibans backers pakistan. For afghanistan 13.8 million in 1990 to 25 million today. For pakistan 110 million to 160 million.

I dont' care what type of enron accounting you do, 13 million people is easier to control then 25 million. And I dont' care what type of Arthur anderson consulting the bush administration is getting, the soviets were in a far better position to deal with the situation then america is.

The americans claim that there has been 135 dead or so, and 1200 or so wounded. Now if the Iraq war is any indication we can immediately jump that up to 270 dead. As if you aren't found dead, and I mean you are pronounced as having no chance of coming back to life by the onseen medic, you are listed as 'wounded'. Then there is accidental deaths and suicides which are another story. And in addition there is the fact that the military just outright lies to make the numbers look low.

In reality we are probably looking at 1000 or more american dead, but for the sake of the arguments lets pretend the pentagon is actualy telling the truth for the first time ever. And for the first time in the history of nations. They have 12,000 troops there. Wounded definition is having to leave the theatre. So over 1/10th of the force has been killed or removed from the war because of battle wounds.

That is some pretty bad losses. As soon as the figure moves over 5% morale falls to nothing, even when fighting for a homeland.

And this rate of casualties is with the americans mainly hiding in their bases. As they move out on a spring offensive they are going to sustain orders of magnitude more losses. And in addition as the enemy evolves to fight you.

It sort of makes me laugh when I hear news reports saying how we have pacified afghanistan now we are going into pakistan. 12,000 people in a region that size and that heavily armed is literaly nothing.
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