Reply #10: Why Rhetoric? [View All]

Why hate? Why scream? Simple: because it works. When conservatives complain about 'Bush-Hating,' or intolerance of differing opinions, do you really think they're serious? Of course not, such pleads to objectivity are simply another tool in their arsenal, one which flies out the window as soon as as their own 'hating' and subjectivity will give them the upper hand (Fox TV, Rush, anyone?).

This is the problem of being totally objective - you lose. People will flock to the most aggressive guy, they don't care about "Rationality," or "Honesty," why do you think teeth-whitening has a bigger effect on polls than massive lies about policies?

The problem with places like spinsanity.com, and others is that they seem to fail to realise that conservatives will simply raid their archives looking for dirt on liberals, meanwhile completely ignoring anything that is critical of their own behaviour. Meanwhile, liberals will actually listen to criticism and try to improve their behaviour.

This is the major trouble when trying to deal "fairly" with a group of people which has not one shred of a conscience, they will use every single opportunity you give them to twist your fairness to their own ends. Then, if that's not enough, they'll turn around and use the things you hold highly (fairness) against you (at least nominally) when you finally get angry enough to fight back (Hard Ball's "fairness" in inviting Democrats on the show recently).

In fact I don't believe I've ever seen a case where a conservative has accused the opposing party of something he isn't a 1000 times more guilty of in the first place. That's the way they work, you criticise them, they ignore all your accurate arguments and try to prove you are the one who is really guilty of such behaviour, god help you if there is even a tiny bit of truth in their position, then you have to take your time to correct you mis-conduct while they sit back, a festering tumour to your boil, and not even spare a second thought on their actions. Can you reason with people like that? I'd rather hit myself in the eye with a nail than behave like that, because I have a conscience, and that is why I'll lose.

We already put so much pressure on ourselves to be truthful and critical - hoops the Republican don't even know exist let alone try to jump through - why waste time on being nice? When you try to reason with a conservative, it's like trying to reason with your dog about sh*tting on the rug; he'll cock his head to the side because he doesn't have a f*cking clue what your talking about, then he'll turn around and do it again, because he does not know any better. What you do is smack him on the ass, so he knows not to do it, he may not know why it’s wrong, but at least he'll stop. This kind of pragmatic action is the ONLY thing that has even a tiny shred of a chance of working.

Democracy (especially large all encompassing ones like the US) is a festering pool of irrationality, and the only way to tame it is to push it around until it finally submits. So on one side your the winning bastard who stems the tide of fearful hatred (if only for awhile), and on the other side the losing saint (who watches the world go to hell but can be happy with his un swerving morality), a pretty sh*tty compromise anyway you look at it; the Bastard will probably become corrupt, and the Saint will lose all his rights, while those around him suffer.

Sorry for the long post, but this kind of thing gnaws at my brain like a rat; sometimes I envy conservatives in their simple ignorance.