Reply #3: The Pro-Pope PR squads are out in fool farce, especially this weakened. [View All]

"The pope is suffering as much as the jews under hitler?" Really? Having stopped in at a concentration camp, and seeing with my own eyes, even 50 yrs after the fact, the horror inflicted on people, I have a wee problem agreeing with this one.

"The pope has been the biggest defender of abused children in the church's history." Really? That's why he transferred known pedophiles to other locations, rather than turn them over to the authorities, or even to defrock the bastards? This one earns a "r i i i i g h t "

"The pope represents the lord on earth, and has a special relationship with god." Uh uh. Does that mean that, as a child, god was a Nazi Yute member, and when god's brother ran a place filled with pedophiles, god covered that up, did he? Or when the richest most powerful South American priest turned out to be a serial child abuser, rapist, and generally, a corrupt thief, his financial success outweighed his few, minor character flaws? Wow, that is some god.



The real problem is the "frame" which the church applies to the rest of us. Their god, and their prince of princes, are infallible. All laws come from god, not men. Ergo, men's laws simply do not apply to the church or its flock of priests, be they child abusers, financial frauds, or lying cheats who talk elderly ladies out of their fortunes.

That last point always cracks me up. When a family member or friend "comforts" a rich, dying elderly person, the state is very concerned that no untoward pressure or manipulation is down, in an effort to inherit the riches. When a priest does that, the state completely ignores their actions and the undue influence they exert. I have personally known of family members (grandsons and daughters) who were beneficiaries in an original will totaling millions, only to see the entire estate go the Archdiocese, because the priest talked the dying grandma into "getting an indulgence" and buying her way into heaven. I am sure this is not a rare occurrence.

I've written before that I view the catholic church as a criminal organization to which RICO should be applied. The only time it was tried, in the early 1990s, neither the courts nor the public were aware just how widespread the abuse, the cover-up were, nor the control over litigation exerted by the vatican to maintain a cover-up.