Reply #137: Fundamental issue: if our votes don't count, we don't win elections. [View All]

If there are reasons to suspect that our votes don't count then we need to vigorously investigate those circumstances. If you don't think that there are reasons to suspect this, then I encourage you to do more research. If you're a Democrat and you see three elections where there was a broad range of voter suppression and highly questionable outcomes and if your conclusion is "shut up, get off of my Democratic board if you want to talk about voter suppression and the high likelihood of fraud" THEN you are subject to criticism and ridicule. If you make that statement, not like I just did but as a blustery "f" you, "boss says so" and "I'll kick your ass" you're also the subject of ridicule. Democrats don't behave, in my world, like a bunch of thugs and bullies. When we did, we lost to Richard Nixon.

With regard to no smoking in your house, cheers. Your goal is, I suspect, to protect your family and yourself from the dangers of second hand smoke. If you don't allow election fraud in your country, your goal is to prevent the theft of elections and the installment of the malicious, damaging gang in the WH now. Same thing. To prevent the harm to our democracy, we need to operate in a reality based way, face the facts, and THINK. KOS stops thinking from time to time and the site behaves in a thuggish way.

As I said earlier, I'm here by choice. It's fine to have forum rules and to have forums for one group another. I wouldn't expect FR to welcome or even tolerate me. But when THE core issue, free and fair elections, one for which people died for in the 60's, is ridiculed and dismissed, then the forum that does that is working against our party and I'll speak up.