Reply #15: There was a debate [View All]

between real scientists and the great legal minds of ID. It was a strange mix since it skewed the matter to center only on legal points with the lawyers able with glee to be completely inconsistent about science, philosophy and theology so long as they scored points.

The main problem is theological. Incredibly these great mind quoted pagan philosophers, ancient theology of natural religion and cosmology, 18th century anti-Church deists. These anti-intellectual(at best) amateurs
have built shibboleths of lies in order to sneak in the back door. That some of the luminaries of fanatical sophistry are catholic probably prompted a swift response from the Vatican. The RC fundies by the way generally despise their Protestant counterparts at least for their rigid anti-Catholicism. The whole mess is rife with dishonesty on every level.

These people care not whit about science or education or even the mischievous ID "theory". It is about advancing themselves over everyone else and inflicting the punishment once jealously guarded by Satan's torturers. Their lawyers are in for the usual reasons. The pols ditto. The scientists as usual are left defending the truth when a lot more of society has a larger stake in this fight than they will admit.