Reply #9: The war was lost when the first GI crossed the border. [View All]

It has accomplished exactly nothing but to fatten the wallets of the miltiary industrial complex and give the politicians a false veneer of toughness.

It has alienated the people of the Middle East and most of the world (rightfully) against the United States.

It has been of no benefit to the Iraqi people - except the gravediggers and the capitalists.

It has displayed the downright incompetance of our bloated military and shown that "the world's mightiest military" can be beaten.

Our "influence" in the Middle East has diminished to that of a wannabee crusader/colonialist that has overreached it's ability to be either.

The staggering cost of the war has, and still is, bankrupting the people of this nation in terms of infrastructure and basic quality of life.

We can now count our "friends and allies" on the fingers of one hand and have fingers left over.

By any measurement. We lost. The longer we stay and contribute to the chaos we subjected the Iraqi people to, the worse the loss will be.

If General Wes can't see that, then he is a fool. (A not uncommon failing of military brass and a given in politicians).