Reply #95: Hooray Nicole! [View All]

For putting it on the line like it need to be!! I too was shocked at some of the responses in earlier threads (muddleoftheroad to name one).

In a much broader scope, I feel that this argument has parallels in the race argument. When whites ask "why are you holding on to the past?" and say things like "Look at how far we've come!"

What I mean by that is, for centuries women have been demeaned, shamed, discriminated against, and marginalized. After suffarage, equal rights, feminism, and years and years of struggle they've finally forced the issue of their deicion to do what they want with their bodies and men are crying sexism?!?!

C'mon?!?! Get off it guys! To me, this is a no-brainer. Your say in the matter end the minute you decide to climb into bed and decide not to protect yourself.

If all you have to do is "pay for that mistake" (I'm loath to word it like that, but that's the essence of what some DU men have said) then you should consider yourself lucky; lucky that women don't force you to move into thier basment and work slave labor for the rest of your lives for being pig-headed, ignorant, selfish, brudish d*ckheads with not so much as a wit about them to WANT to care for that precious life, much less cry foul that you're being treated "unfairly" for being left out of the decision.

Nicole, nothingshocksmeanymore, et. al. you are right on point here. Keep up the fight against this misogyny - that is what it is, at it's base.

BTW, not that it matters, but I'm a man. LOL :hi: