Reply #86: no it isn't what truly matters [View All]

I should say in hindsight, I said "any non-Indian" and then after that I used "you". I didn't mean an ad hominem, I really should stuck with "any non-Indian." But, yeah, any non-Indian who says Indians are going too far with PCness on this is full of it. I think you were joking around in your OP a little, so I'm not sure just exactly how firmly you stand on this, so I don't know if you are totally full of it or not.

I don't need to read the article.(although I did read it, it doesn't say much) It doesn't necessarily matter what one Individual tribe thinks. It's what the Indian people as a whole think. These logos and names don't just represent a Ute or a Seminole for example. They represent all Indians, in some form. It is dehumanizing, no argument about it at all. It's not that I "feel" it is. It IS. I'm not upset about the ruling. Why should I be upset about it. The NCAA is standing up for civil rights, which is bigger than the opinion of one tribe.

See the ruling in question is part of a policy that had the input of many tribes around the country. It's about banning the use of abusive, hostile and racist terms. The NCAA made it's decision based on a ruling made from the input of a variety of tribes, tribal organizations and Indian activist organizations. The Ute Tribe is small. They have 3,174 enrolled tribal members. It wasn't a group of white people who are telling them they can't have the name, it is a ruling based on the wishes of a far greater number of American Indians. So I am not upset that the NCAA ruled in favor of minority rights.

More importantly you should be asking, does the opinion of one small tribe matter over the opinion of the rest of the American Indian community? No it doesn't. The NCAA is telling the Ute Tribe that the majority of Indian's wishes matter, not just a few.


But, let's put it to a vote and see. That's the best way to do it.