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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:47 PM
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5. Maybe you are calling for air strikes, but I'm certainly not.
Any air strikes would be an excuse for stealing dangerous fossil fuels, as we saw the last time that the anti-nukes teamed up with Cheney, Powell et al to raise nuclear bugaboos.

The number of nuclear wars in the last 50 years is zero. The number of dangerous fossil fuel wars is not zero. The number of wars fought to fight nuclear weapons programs is zero. Not one country, zero, has ever legitimately invaded to stop a nuclear weapons program.

Or is it your contention that the war in Iraq was legitimate, that a nuclear program was in fact involved? Let me guess, you and George W. Bush, Condisleeza, and Dickie are smarter than either El Baradei or Hans Blix?

Out with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The number of countries that have banned dangerous fossil fuels with solar and wind is zero.

Maybe you haven't figured that out, but most people on the planet have done so. This would include the Iranians. Thus they have nuclear plants, to which they have an absolute right.

Now, if you could name a country that phased out an existent reliance on dangerous fossil fuels using your pet solar and wind fantasy, you'd have something to say to the Iranians and any one else. But you don't. You just have blank endlessly repeated platitudes of the type that the Walmart executive Amory Lovins was producing - almost word for word - 31 years ago.

It's not like Ohio has phased out fossil fuels using solar and wind. Or Iowa. Or Germany. Or Denmark. Norway is adding fossil fuels. In fact, Germany is adding fossil fuels, big time, on a billion ton scale, not even counting the cost of shipping coal from the South African and Polish mines.

I do realize that the anti-nuke industry couldn't care less about dangerous fossil fuel waste, but the rest of us do. I would be concerned if Iran announced a "wind and solar" program, since everyone who does that simply increases their reliance of fossil fuels.

This is, in fact, why Lovins takes some big paychecks from big energy companies. He serves their interests pretty well, as do all anti-nukes.

I wouldn't go so far as to call for air strikes on the 26 new coal plants the Germans are building, even though this coal plants are certain to kill innocent people. However the anti-nuke Gazprom executive, Gerhard Schoeder has thus far committed far more damage than Iran's nuclear program.

Actually, the call for air strikes is based on vast ignorance and nothing else. It's simply marketing by the way. Georgie uses nuclear ignorance to justify his violence, but he couldn't care less about nuclear weapons development.

Have you ever heard of North Korea?

No?

You haven't?

What a surprise. Let me tell you about North Korea. It's a country bordering China. It tested nuclear weapons. Cheney and his friends couldn't care less about nuclear weapons, just like the anti-nuke industry couldn't care less about dangerous fossil fuel violence.

Are you calling for air strikes, by the way?

The anti-nuke fear mongers did a great job getting air strikes and worse accomplished in Iraq with the Niger uranium scare story, and one would think, given how that turned out, that the anti-nuke industry would have developed some sense of how morally vapid their position is.

Apparently not though.
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