Does this mean we need to continue with oil? Sorry I am not buying into the argument that our current use of a product indicates that we are using the best product! As you are well aware we have had things shoved down our throats by the profiteers and items which may have been better for our environment have been suppressed DELIBERATELY by those same greedy bastards.
You say; "It's doing it cheaply cleanly and efficiently."
First cheaply: This OP demonstrates where cheaply is not entirely accurate, here is another example where 'cheaply' did not apply:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/century/power.shtml Seattle dodged that bullet, the United Nuke Industry tried to shove this down our throats and would try again if they could!
Next Cleanly: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Tell ya what, when all the spent depleted uranium munitions and it's byproduct depleted uranium oxide is cleaned up throughout the middle east and elsewhere, DO get back to me on that cleanly thing. Here, if you need to check into the whys and wherefores and horrors of depleted uranium munitions:
http://www.life.com/Life/essay/gulfwar/gulf01.html http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/DU-Dennis-Kyne1jul04... http://civillibertarian.blogspot.com/2005/11/radioactiv... http://www.grassrootspeace.org/depleted_uranium.html http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/du_syndrome.html http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/pentagon_brass.ht... http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/DU-Trojan-Horse1jul0... http://www.cadu.org.uk/info/health/index.htm http://www.wise-uranium.org/indexd.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities... http://www.bushflash.com/pl_lo.html (graphic)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0305/S00050.htm http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2006/DU-Europe-Moret26feb... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... Efficiently: depends on use of the term,...the internal combustion engine is pretty efficient too and obviously in widespread use throughout the planet... does that mean it is/was our best recourse? GUESS WHO would fiercely tell us that those engines are our best recourse...yep BIG OIL. Do ya suppose they would argue that this particular efficiency is effectively raising our greenhouse gasses???? Nope, not if they didn't have to...but I will, even if BIG OIL supporters will not. Nuke proponents won't look to the harm done to us or our environment when they discuss efficiency...but I will. Efficiency, in my book covers a broader spectrum than the nuts and bolts of the engine, it's fuel source to energy output ratios....it includes what harm it does due to it's use as well.
Lastly: Is labeling someone an 'idiot' for disagreeing with me condescending? Yep. But that is not what I do! I have no issue with folks who disagree with me. There have been cases where I have had my opinions changed here in the DU by folks I disagreed with. The idiots are the ones who think to change my opinion that Nuke Reactors are the best way to go for our future energy needs when clearly I have shown I am not interested in hearing their arguments. I do not care if they want to think that Nuke energy is best, live and let live....I DO care if they choose to pick a fight with me when it is plain to see that I am firmly entrenched with my opinions regarding this topic. Can you now see where I am at with this?
We disagree...I have no problem with this disagreement. Now that you can clearly see my position, I hope you don't decide to join the 2 IDIOTS who thought to pick fruitless FIGHTS with me when they too could plainly see my position. They thought to paint me as the idiot BECAUSE of my position when they knew it was not budge-able! That is sheer idiocy in my book. Wanna guess where I stand politically? Yep I am a Democrat, wanna try and change me into a bush supporter? THAT would be equally impossible and after a bit of discussion one would plainly see that this was the case. If after discovering how strongly I was against bush one wanted to paint me the bad guy, I would call them IDIOTS too...that is EXACTLY what the two I have on ignore tried unsuccessfully to do! They were IDIOTS and I firmly stand by that assertion.
There is plenty enough evidence for all to plainly see that nuke energy is both a nightmare and a boon! Some chose to ignore the horror and look only at the boon, I have chosen to look at the horror. Mankind does not NEED these issues! FAR too much damage has been done already and in my book this does not balance out with the good provided! No amount of pie charts or further debate is going to eliminate that damage done and good intentions won't prevent further damage from being done. Not to mention, I see the Nuke Energy bosses in the same way I see the Big Oil bosses:GREEDY BASTARDS WHO DON'T GIVE A RATS BUTT ABOUT YOU OR I! I have no problem treating them as they would treat me, with utter disdain.
Tell ya what, when you can convince this lady of your arguments:
http://www.helencaldicott.com/then I'll be willing to debate this further. I want to make myself just as plain to you as I did to the idiots: I am NOT interested in this debate in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, you have your opinions, I have mine. To me, too much damage has been done, too many tears have been shed, too many have died because of this 'monster/genie'. I am convinced that mankind can do better for themselves. The nuke shills waste their time with me PERIOD!
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