Reply #31: Yeah, Israel did provoke the six-day war, [View All]

It was deliberate, and the arabic states were outgunned from the beginning. That was not a grand and glorious adventure...it has been portrayed as the spunky little Israel fighting back for her existence, when it was nothing of the sort.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4144954716305864975&q=six+day+war+deceptions&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

This is from a former UN observer.

Yes, you are correct, zionism started in russia in the late 1800's. The first world war exacerbated the problem because of the Balfour declaration, which kept Palestine from being a state....the Palestinians were not supposed to be swept from Palestine, but to be assimilated into a Jewish state, and no, that didn't suit either side. And yes, we, the Jews, did engage in terrorism, including some terrorism against our own people living in Arabic states, in order to swell the population of Israel. Putting it very bluntly, we needed a population and cannon fodder.

The second world war led to the attempted genocide of the Jews, and others, which did not succeed fully, but which led more and more people to the ideal of an independent Jewish state. That is what I meant by stating it was a recruiting tool. Palestine, having not been made a state when the british left because of the balfour declaration, was the intended site.....and the fact that Palestine was never given a state was the excuse and the reason for the state of Israel being dropped into the middle of Palestine.

Israel had not ruled that land for more than 435 years, and had not been the rulers of the entire area for more than 260 years, and that 2,000 years ago, a short period in the historical record. Even before the Romans, the area was NOT totally Israel; it had been broken. That happened even before the era when Christ is supposed to have existed, the so-called common era.

The history of the region is confounded by the biblical "record," which is fiction. The fossil records and the historical records do not support that history; the land has been continually inhabited, and fought over, since the time of the earliest hominids. The jews could not have been "given" that land when it was vacant, because the land has never been vacant! Sometimes it was settled and farmed, sometimes it has been nomadic; that happened because of varying levels of rainfall. The actual record of the area shows various peoples coming and going, being invaded and repelling occupiers, for a long, long, long time before the Jews ever showed up.

There is no reason but the bible for the jews to lay claim to that area....and that book is not an accurate record, but a basis for an irrational belief. It is, in my view, less valid than ancestor worship, and the followers of the God of Abraham scare the hell out of me.

Now you can, of course, flame me for that. That's fine. It's a personal view that the entire world should be subjected to classes on comparative religions from grammar school.

In this case, religion does nothing but cloud the issue.