Reply #59: its a two part answer..... [View All]

first the principle:
that if the Palestinians can claim that they have rights to the land since they are indigenous (well at least some of the, surly not those that immigrated after the 1920's....), then so too can the jews, since the historical record is clear.

and since the UN has declared that only for the Palestinians descendants of refugees are also refugees, i assume we want to be consistent and apply that to the jews.

i'm a big fan of having a single standard. (double standards reek of racism and are too emotionally based)

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so now its clear we have to claims to the same land..each using its descendants and history to lay claim...Most peoples after having been kicked out via war etc, pick up their pieces and get on with life, the jews unfortunately have had the honor of having anti-semitism following them all over the world, the Palestinians have the honor of being used as pawns by the western left and arab states...

and thats the impasse....the idea of saying that jews are stealing the land or that the Palestinian claim is 'weaker" (since their nat identity is from the 1900's) are both irrelevant: both claims are within each of the cultures and both have unique circumstances unlike any other that has brought the conflict to where it is today.

If the jews return is similar to stealing then we can just as easily say it was the arabs and their descendants the Palestinians that are in fact are also thieves......and had no right to interfer with the non violent immigration of the returning jews (the descendants)....

the solution lies now without "blaming" one group or the other as having a greater right, the solution is simple accepting the fact that both have claims and the solution to be worked in the present.