Reply #76: I don't want Israel destroyed; I do want its political system destroyed. [View All]

I want to see Israel become a secular, non-discriminatory state.

This wouldn't entail destroying it in any vaguely sane sense of the word - exactly as the end of Apartheid was not the destruction of South Africa.

But it *would* mean the end of zionism, and I suspect that to a lot of zionists this qualifies as destroying it - I think that to a lot of them, "discriminates against non-Jews" is the defining property of Israel, and that if it stopped doing that it wouldn't be Israel any more.


Also, I'm calling your bluff: I think that your statement that you want Israel to yank the settlements out of the WB is a barefaced lie; I bet that what you actually mean is that you want Israel to yank some of the settlements out while annexing others - probably quite a lot of others, at a guess.

For what it's worth, I *don't* want Israel to "yank" all, or even very many of the settlements out of the West Bank; I think that they should be turned over to a Palestinian state but that all or most of those not built on privately-owned land should be allowed to remain, under Palestinian sovereignty.