Reply #56: That's just preposperous the way that you are twisting [View All]

Bob Graham's words to justify Edwards' incorrect Iraq war position and his vote on the IWR.....

To maligne a great American Senator who HAD THE BALLS TO VOTE AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR RESOLUTION so that you can "protect" Edwards' wrong vote is really taking this conversation to a place you may not want to go.

In reference to Italy and Germany....Graham was making an analogy....because the BUSH admin was using WWII and Hitler as a comparison to Saddam Hussein.
Graham's view.....Germany/Hitler = Terrorist cells/Osama
and Italy/Mussolini = Iraq/Saddam

While
Bush admin's view.....Germany/Hitler = Iraq/Saddam with no mention to the 800 gorilla....Osama Bin "forgotten" (as Graham aptly put it).

Here's Graham on that analogy:

A historical example, which has been used in this debate, is the example of the 1930s -- that England, France and other nations would eventually join in the world's greatest alliance slept, while Hitler's power grew.

They say that passing this resolution is the equivalent of if the Alllies had declared war on Hitler. I disagree with that assessment of what this lesson of history means. In my judgment, passing this resolution tonight will be the equivalent of declaring war on Italy. That is not what we should be doing. We should not just be declaring war on Mussolini's Italy. We should be declaring war on Hitler's Germany.

Now, there are good reasons for considering attacking today's Italy, meaning Iraq. Saddam Hussein's regime has chemical and biological weapons and is trying to get nuclear capacity. But b]the briefings I have received have shown that trying to block him and any necessary nuclear materials have been largely successful, as evidenced by the recent intercept of centrifuge tubes. And he is years away from having nuclear capability. So why does it make sense to attack this era's Italy,[]b/ and not Germany, especially when by attacking Italy, we are making Germany a more probable adversary?
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/10/20/Perspective/Graham_s_opposition_t.shtml