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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:25 AM
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72. Resolve WHAT?!
WE don't HAVE to resolve ANYTHING in Iran!
Why should we? Because they MAY do something in the FUTURE??
Because they HATE us?!

THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO HATE US. And I mean that at the most basic level: in their own choice TO BE FREE TO LIKE OR DISLIKE WHOEVER THEY WISH! We, too, are free to hate or love whomever we like -- but WE DON'T HAVE THE IMPERATIVE RIGHT TO SUBORN OR FORCE ANYONE TO DO WHAT *WE* WANT THEM TO OR DICTATE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO!

WHERE THEN is this "Freedom" we so self-congratulatorily bestow?

THERE IS NONE.

Because if they're not free to live the way THEY choose -- THEY'RE NOT FREE.


And if WE view their government as oppressive -- it's THEIR duty, on THEIR own decision and time to revolt and CHANGE THEMSELVES!
And it's done ALL THE TIME... do NOT underestimate the POWER OF THE PEOPLE!

It's not for us to say 'oh those poor people they'll NEVER BE FREE until WE (LITERALLY) FORCE THEM TO BE'!
Don't you people see the humongous FLAW in that hypothesis?!

They hate us? Well, if I were a citizen of just about any Middle East country --lately we haven't gained friends in many countries anywhere in the world, neither-- I'd hate America too!
A country who wages preemptive war based upon LIES,
and it does turn out that in fact Yes, it WAS for oil!
WHO in their right mind --a conscientious mind, not an avaricious one!-- would want to emulate WHAT WE DO?

We're Liberators alright -- we liberate them from their LIVELIHOOD, their WAY OF LIFE, their CULTURE, their RESOURCES, and THEIR LIVES

We lasted through decades of the Cold War decrying the Soviet Union's tactics of going in and "Liberating" other countries TO MAKE THEM LIVE AS THE SOVIETS LIVED because the Soviets were SO sure they had the RIGHT way to live, that would benefit ANYONE, ANYWHERE ELSE in the World! Indeed, these invaded countries would THANK them in the long run!

Sound familiar? HOW do WE, doing the SAME THING, then make it RIGHT?!

And I'll clue you in on another Truth: Reagan did NOT change the Soviet Union. Nixon did not change the Soviet Union.
Not ONE SINGLE AMERICAN changed the Soviet Union!

The Soviet Union changed themselves!



The Iranians hate us? Good for them! We'd hate any country who'd come into our sovereign land doing the same thing to us!

And I don't mean the word "war" as is meant by any American newspaper or media's fluffy, unreal definition. I mean "war" as bloody and invasive; WAR as "Collateral damage" a nice phrase that just happens to mean the brutal deaths of civilians, families and children; WAR as brains and intestines exploded out, WAR as the actual reek of offal and decay and death.
REAL WAR
-- Not with a few embedded propagandists or carefully chosen sound bytes, or well-edited film clips of people just about to be brutally murdered and then cut away to a good looking talking-head and Oh! we just feel so much better! They never show the slightest trace of the true face of War on OUR screens of course, it's too BRUTAL for US you know! ...but it's not so for anyone we just happen to target. It actually HAPPENS TO THOSE PEOPLE, IT HAPPENS TO OUR OWN SOLDIERS but LET'S NOT BE REMINDED BY SEEING THOSE POOR CHILDRENS ACTUAL COFFINS! Oh no!
It's SO much nicer, here in America, to view War, removed behind a glass or plasma screen as some clean, glorious, intellectual, and above all MORAL exercise don't you know!
And we're so superior to bestow that upon other peoples of the world!

We're so insulated here between Canada and Mexico we have NO IDEA what it's like in other countries (Rwanda. Kosovo. Cambodia.)
-- but mark my words, we keep being the bad, bully neighbor to those (and many other) countries, and we are just asking to see some of that Real War brought to our very own streets. And those who have brought their own reality TO us --and yes it was barbaric and horrific but not more barbaric and horrific than happens in their countries BECAUSE of our actions in their countries. Those we call terrorists and we look not at our actions that were the impetus for those attacks. Instead we take their REALITY which WE WITHOUT DOUBT, specifically and intentionally IMPOSE ONTO THEM in their far away countries, and irresponsibly turn it into a vague blame about them hating Freedom.


You know what we HAVE to do, before we do ANYTHING else? We HAVE to strengthen our OWN borders and transportation and make them safe so that any terrorists DO NOT GET IN. We HAVE to take care of our OWN people, make sure they're healthy and educated and have Hope and Justice and Opportunity and FREEDOM HERE AT HOME. We HAVE to stay OUT of the Nation-Building and the World-Police business, we're not good at it; and while we're at it OUT of the "I'll MAKE you do this because, never mind what YOU want, I WANT YOU TO" frame of mind!

We HAVE to LEAD BY EXAMPLE, NOT BY FORCE!

WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT FORCING OTHER PEOPLE TO LIVE BY WHAT WE DECIDE DOES NOT MAKE THEM FREE!

WHERE is THEIR right of self-determination?


TELL ME THAT! EXPLAIN that to me!
And while you're at it EXPLAIN why WE'RE SO SUPERIOR that we can TELL EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH THE RIGHT WAY TO LIVE! We're so PERFECT?! (Prejudice. Ku Klux Klan.) Our crime rates are non-existent? (Young black men leading killers of young black men. Husbands leading killers of pregnant wives.) We have no poverty?! (Too many examples to even list.) EVERY American citizen has full human rights and equality? (Matthew Shepard. Gay Union.) We respect our land and environment? (Pollution. Smog. Broken Treaties. #1 in emissions for GLOBAL WARMING AND CHANGE (& I DON"T mean what we call GOOD change!) AND WE DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK THAT EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IS VERY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY WHAT WE DO!) We're so damn great we ensure food, clothing, higher education, health care and a DECENT HOME to every single citizen?! (I don't know where to even START!)

Our WOMEN are STILL earning 70% of what men are! GIVE ME A BREAK!


WE DON'T *HAVE* TO DO ONE BLESSED THING TO IRAN OTHER THAN LET THEM BE! LET THEM LIVE THE WAY THEY WISH TO LIVE, OR CHANGE THEIR SOCIETY IN THE WAY THEY WISH TO CHOOSE
-- NOT HOW WE DICTATE!

They hate us? Here's a couple suggestions to change that:

LET US BECOME A FRIEND INSTEAD OF A BULLY!
Let us HELP them instead of our usual FORCING them to do not what is in THEIR interests but OUR interests!

BUT FIRST, THE VERY FIRST THING OH MY DEAR LORD WE HAVE TO CORRECT ARE ALL THE MISTAKES AND SINS UPON ALL INVIOLATE HUMAN BEINGS WE DELIBERATELY AND IMMORALLY PERPETRATE IN OUR OWN LAND, AND THEN, ONLY THEN CAN WE LOOK UNTO OTHERS -- AND THEN WITH TRUE HUMILITY!

"...before you remove the mote in your neighbor's eye, remove the LOG FROM YOUR OWN".
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