If Fineman is lying then where did he get the quotes [View All]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6857146/site/newsweek

In the above article Fineman suggests that anti Dean DNC members are spreading the following quotes said by Dean in an attempt to discredit him.

That left the anti-Dean forces with only one clear strategy: recycling the long list of his provocative statements. Among them: that we shouldn't judge Osama bin Laden until he has a jury trial; that America won't always have the strongest military; that "if Bill Clinton could be the first black president, I can be the first gay president." The ABD forces were also pointing reporters to an off-the-record Harvard seminar in November, at which Dean is rumored to have facetiously suggested that Democrats leave Wyoming rather than put up with anti-gay attitudes there. (A Dean spokeswoman says the governor remembers discussing the Matthew Shepherd case, but not the specific remarks about Wyoming. "In any case, his view is that the Democrats need to compete everywhere, including there.")

Clearly the first two are pretty famous and thus anyone could have those. The second two are anything but. One is a quote that literally not one Dean supporter here had ever heard of and the second is an off the record seminar. My simple question is this: If Fineman is making up this opposition plot against Dean, from whom did he get the quotes? He may be making up Clinton's role in this (though it fits a disturbing pattern on Clinton's part) but he can't be making up the plot or else he wouldn't have the quotes.

So again a simple question for those who accuse us of falling for Fineman's lies. Where did the quotes come from?